gnipper 6,466 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 My old dog was ready at 9 months you could just tell. This pup I've got now is approaching 12 months and he would catch easy but another month everything will be baled and the ground will be softer so I'm not rushing. 4 Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Mines 11 months now taking him out for his first go on the lamp tonight! Its near enough a full moon, its red hot and the grounds baked hard ... Whats the rush ??? 3 Quote Link to post
chop 1 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'd be careful to take him out and not run him, sure way to frustrate the dog enough to yap. best off waiting a bit Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Have a word with your uncle, if he works his dogs ask if you can tag along, i took my young un out with her mother to start her off, it worked out well, buster. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Have a word with your uncle, if he works his dogs ask if you can tag along, i took my young un out with her mother to start her off, it worked out well, buster. same here always start them off watching an older dog, Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 He doesn't need to go out to see 'other dogs working'. IMO take them out on their own, i prefer 11 or 12 months old. It all depends on what you want, we all have our own ways. I just like to start the dog on his own without any other influence. 3 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I have never seen the point of taking a pup to WATCH another dog working ... They are not monkeys as in monkey see monkey do ... In my experience all it does is get the dog wound up and excited then frustrated because it hasn't had a run itself ... When the pup is mature enough both physically and mentally get it out on its own .... Pic a night that's spot on ... Go to a place that's got plenty of rabbits ... Get one or two easy catches to build up its confidence and leave it at that ... As time goes on and the dog gets more mature and catches become easier then up the amount of rabbits you allow the dog to catch ... In a few months the dog should have clicked to the game and away you go ......... 5 Quote Link to post
breeze 1,306 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Well said Sock's Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,080 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Prefer to get them out ferreting for there first season calm then down a bit then lamp when there a bit older and a have we bit more knowledge Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,743 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I have never seen the point of taking a pup to WATCH another dog working ... They are not monkeys as in monkey see monkey do ... In my experience all it does is get the dog wound up and excited then frustrated because it hasn't had a run itself ... When the pup is mature enough both physically and mentally get it out on its own .... Pic a night that's spot on ... Go to a place that's got plenty of rabbits ... Get one or two easy catches to build up its confidence and leave it at that ... As time goes on and the dog gets more mature and catches become easier then up the amount of rabbits you allow the dog to catch ... In a few months the dog should have clicked to the game and away you go ......... Spot on sir . Other dogs around when you're starting a youngster off is a pain in the cnut, needless hassle Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 all well and dandy however, i take 2 dogs, so getting the youngster to wait quietly whilst the other dog is running the beam is as much a part of the training as recall and sit. you can not teach a youngster to do this without another dog being there Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 all well and dandy however, i take 2 dogs, so getting the youngster to wait quietly whilst the other dog is running the beam is as much a part of the training as recall and sit. you can not teach a youngster to do this without another dog being there I run two dogs aswell mate both off the lead walking free and it's easier to teach them to wait quietly when they have been out on their own and done a bit and understand what the game is about ... Now stop arguing with me or I will snap your stick .......... Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 all well and dandy however, i take 2 dogs, so getting the youngster to wait quietly whilst the other dog is running the beam is as much a part of the training as recall and sit. you can not teach a youngster to do this without another dog being there I run two dogs aswell mate both off the lead walking free and it's easier to teach them to wait quietly when they have been out on their own and done a bit and understand what the game is about ... Now stop arguing with me or I will snap your stick .......... sounds like smithy has sabotaged it already Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,743 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 all well and dandy however, i take 2 dogs, so getting the youngster to wait quietly whilst the other dog is running the beam is as much a part of the training as recall and sit. you can not teach a youngster to do this without another dog being there I run two dogs aswell mate both off the lead walking free and it's easier to teach them to wait quietly when they have been out on their own and done a bit and understand what the game is about ... Now stop arguing with me or I will snap your stick .......... sounds like smithy has sabotaged it already Who the fcuk is smithy!? lol. Anyway, I know most people have their own way of starting a young dog off, but surely getting a youngster to listen, and learn, is far easier if it's on it's own with you and no other dogs or people tagging along, as the pup will mess around simply because it's still a pup. On it's own with just me for a while is what I've done for years. Other dogs and/or people make it a tedious pain in the crutch Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 all well and dandy however, i take 2 dogs, so getting the youngster to wait quietly whilst the other dog is running the beam is as much a part of the training as recall and sit. you can not teach a youngster to do this without another dog being there I run two dogs aswell mate both off the lead walking free and it's easier to teach them to wait quietly when they have been out on their own and done a bit and understand what the game is about ... Now stop arguing with me or I will snap your stick .......... sounds like smithy has sabotaged it already Who the fcuk is smithy!? lol. Anyway, I know most people have their own way of starting a young dog off, but surely getting a youngster to listen, and learn, is far easier if it's on it's own with you and no other dogs or people tagging along, as the pup will mess around simply because it's still a pup. On it's own with just me for a while is what I've done for years. Other dogs and/or people make it a tedious pain in the crutch honestly never had a problem, one or two watches of the older dog, then a nice squatter out in the middle somewhere and away you gou go, youngster pisses about after the catch, slip the old dog and double retrieve. they soon settle into it after an hour or so, Quote Link to post
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