roba7736 1 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hi i have a 10 month old bitch staffy she is dog nervous but fine with my mothers 3 month yorkie x bitch pup. I brought a 9 week old dog pat pur yesterday. now i muzzled my bitch due to i know her. she is fine with pup most of the time but out of no where she will suddenly go for him (luckly muzzled). pup is trying to play and she is ok with him climbimg on top of her etc but all of a sudden bang she switches. Anybody got any advise. Staff bitch is well trained. But im just a little worried she is gonna hurt pup or turn him dog aggressive to. Cheers Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 So you muzzle the bitch because you know she isn't trustworthy with the pup, and then you let it climb on her? Forgive me if I read this wrong, but if I read it correctly then you are setting yourself up for even more problems. It is pure cruelty to the bitch to force her to interact with a little puppy that wants to jump at her, chew on her, when she hates it, and if you ever leave them together without her being muzzled you can be sure there'll be pay back big time, even far into the future. Do the right thing for the bitch, and the pup. Keep them separate. Don't let the pup use her as a play thing. Make sure she has space to get away from the pup even when you are right there with them. Don't let the pup anywhere near her for now. Preferably keep the pup in a cage (if it lives indoors) so there is no chance at all of her hurting it. And when the pup is out of the crate make sure the bitch is nowhere around. In time, she may grow to accept it, but plenty of normal (not nervous) dogs hate tiny pups and don't want to be anywhere near them, though they accept them just fine when they grow out of the silly puppy stage. Puppies want to chew, play and climb on dogs: it's normal behaviour, especially from a feisty terrier pup. If the bitch really has a problem with all dogs then why on earth try and force her to accept a puppy? Surely common sense should tell you that it will end with a dead pup and an even more problematical bitch which now knows that there's a good way to get rid of a nuisance dog? If you must keep the pup, then keep them separate all the time, but allow them to see each other under your control at all times. Hopefully the bitch will become accustomed to the terrier. 8 Quote Link to post
iguanaman2442 0 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 oh this place not changed then still full of dickheads that cant read properly. When did i say she hated all dog read it she is fine with another 3 month old pup. what a load of rubbish keep pup totally away from her. YEAH SO SHE CAN PROPER DISLIKE IT AS A YOUNG ADULT. Cant be bothered to ask questions before accusing me of being cruel. Just for your info the pup is caged and has spent plenty of time with my bitch today unmuzzled and fine. justn me stressing over nothing. might as well delete my account cant be arsed with people like that thought it might have changed round here but obviously still that little circle on here. if yourinit ya can do as you please if you not then dont dare speak back or speak your mind good bye Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 You asked for advice,Skycat gave you good sound advice and for his efforts you insult him.It was a stupid question anyway,it is common knowledge not to trust staffs(real staffs) around any dog. 6 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 You did say in the first sentence of your post that your bitch was 'dog nervous', and of course nervousness can lead to aggression. It is very hard to give correct advice over the internet without seeing the dogs in question in the flesh. When we just get a small amount of information it is easy to jump to conclusions, and there have been many idiots on here who don't have a clue, not saying you are one of them, but your first post only seemed to dwell on the problems: small wonder I saw a tragedy in the making. I still think it is a bad idea to let a small pup climb all over an adult dog which is known to be worried by other dogs. You can't stop the pup being a pup, so it makes sense to allow them together only under strict supervision which means stopping the pup bothering the bitch. It would only take one proper bite to kill a pup, no matter how close you were to the dogs at the time. It is also normal for adult dogs to tell pups off when they've had enough of them, with a snap and a growl, but it should never go further than that, and it is a sign for the owner to remove the pup straight away, especially a terrier pup that doesn't have an 'off' button. No point telling the older dog off as it is only doing what is natural to tell the puppy to stop what it is doing. The problem occurs if the older dog hasn't been properly socialised and it's snap escalates quickly into a real bite, or if the pup won't listen to the warning and the adult is forced to step up it's response, especially if it can't get away from the pup. Is it possible that the bitch accepts the Yorkie pup because it doesn't bother her as much as the Pat pup? If this is the case then it makes sense to keep pup and bitch apart until it is a bit older. You still have to let them see each other, but only when you are around to distract the pup from annoying the bitch, by playing with it yourself. Hopefully she will gradually become accustomed to it given time and the chance to realise that it won't continually annoy her because you are in control of the situation and the pup. 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Don't care how well anyone 'thinks' they know their dogs, I certainly wouldn't be leaving any of my dogs, adults or pups, loose around any staff, even supervised, Tragedy in the blink of an eye is very very possible with these dogs Quote Link to post
kirstysdad 827 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 keep them apart is good advice most dogs don't like pups to annoying just curious why 2 user names 1 Quote Link to post
patterdale666 1,620 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 keep them apart is good advice most dogs don't like pups to annoying just curious why 2 user names he may aswell delete his account. he hates THL so much he has a load of accounts Quote Link to post
block end 242 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hi i have a 10 month old bitch staffy she is dog nervous but fine with my mothers 3 month yorkie x bitch pup. I brought a 9 week old dog pat pur yesterday. now i muzzled my bitch due to i know her. she is fine with pup most of the time but out of no where she will suddenly go for him (luckly muzzled). pup is trying to play and she is ok with him climbimg on top of her etc but all of a sudden bang she switches. Anybody got any advise. Staff bitch is well trained. But im just a little worried she is gonna hurt pup or turn him dog aggressive to. Cheers Best to do mate keep the staff and give me the patterdale if that easier for you. 1 Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Get rid of all your dogs and buy a hamster you wont need to worry then 2 Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Don't care how well anyone 'thinks' they know their dogs, I certainly wouldn't be leaving any of my dogs, adults or pups, loose around any staff, even supervised, Tragedy in the blink of an eye is very very possible with these dogsdogs are dogs just because it's a staff doesn't mean it's more dangerous imo..If the staff is well socialised ...Some staffs are as nice mannered as you can get. .had one as a family pet growing up and he loved other dogs/ kids. And iv got a Russell bitch here would bite a pup through kennel mesh given half a chance..which is why she doesn't get the chance. Get to know your dogs and act responsibly..If they need separation then so be it. It's better than the alternative. Quote Link to post
Kieran .j 24 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Shaark a see you ain't had a staff before then cause there good dogs and even better with kids Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Shaark a see you ain't had a staff before then cause there good dogs and even better with kids I've had plenty,and i agree with him. 3 Quote Link to post
mule1943 291 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Get rid of all your dogs and buy a hamster you wont need to worry then do they do staffy hamsters Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Shaark a see you ain't had a staff before then cause there good dogs and even better with kids I've had plenty,and i agree with him.Real staffs cannot be trusted around ANY dog,they can be together for years or days and some little thing happens and you have a dead dog. 3 Quote Link to post
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