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Just had the phone call today from the FEO and got the variation for a .223 granted.

 

Its going to be used for lamping foxes, any advice for me with regards to buying a second hand gun and scope would help.

 

Also I would prefer to choose some ammo and stick to it, I found trying to use different types of ammo in my .22lr just confused things.

 

So what ammo are you lot using and are happy with?

 

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Just had the phone call today from the FEO and got the variation for a .223 granted.   Its going to be used for lamping foxes, any advice for me with regards to buying a second hand gun and scope w

No the case from .243 is bigger, as that is just a necked down .308, the .22-250 is as SS says a necked down .250 savage case, and began its life (as so many did) as a wildcat cartridge, the .250-3000

Hornady 53gr superformance zeroed at 1 1/4" high at 100 yards then just point and shoot on a fox sized target out to 300 yards. its fast, flat shooting, deadly accurate and very hard hitting.

Any 'high street' brand Winchester/Remington etc, because you will want to get the same each time, and gunshops

don't keep a variety or 1,000's of any centrefire because it's expensive.

So the 55gr expanding softpoint is the most widely used for .223, that's what they'll have, it may not be the absolute best for

your rifle, but unless you reload your best to stick with the common stuff.

Also although you must/should have looked into this first, centrefire ammo is scarily 'dear' compared to rimfire, you may

spend £20.00 just getting the scope zeroed.

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Cheers.

 

Is it common practise to zero and inch high at 100 yards? If so how far can you shoot out to while still on cross hairs? I know I can look on the ballistic calculators, but in the real world?

 

Generally I will have no need to shoot past 150yards, so is an inch high at 100 still the best bet?

 

Also any advice on buying a second hand gun and scope?

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In my experience an inch to 11/2" high at 100 is pretty good for anything up to 200 without having to make adjustments. :thumbs:

 

As for buying a second hand gun and scope, everyone tastes are different. I'd use guntrader.co.uk as a start. Some people prefer adjustable mag scopes, others prefer fixed. I have a fixed (8x56)

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Sdan and I will be doing the same in the next couple of weeks mate so good luck, just do your homework mate as you'll never get a straight forward answer on here ..lol..you might wanna consider reloading as my mate does with his .223 and it does make a difference.

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Ammunition for the .223 is probably the most popular your gun shop will stock, along with the .243 and .22LR so he should have a fairly good variety of flavours.

 

If you're foxing, any weight bullet from 40 grain to 55 grain is "ideal" and if you can, I would strongly suggest trying a handful of different manufacturers and bullet weights just to try and get the best from the rifle. Your shop may only stock Remington and Winchester brands, so a box of what Winchester he stocks and a box of what Remington he stocks will let you decide the best on paper.

 

I know I've repeated this several times but there really is no point in having a huge batch of ammunition that you bought in one go sitting in your cabinet because the rifle spits it out like a shotgun.

 

As for second hand rifles and scopes, just be careful and if humanly possible, find out where the rifle has come from. If it has been a keeper's or target shooters' rifle then I would avoid it unless it's near brand new,

 

Centrefires will lose accuracy with heavy use and scopes can become innacurate if they've been banged, dropped etc.

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