stabba 10,745 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 In some cases we are talking babies here. Babies..yes likkel ones. Nowhere on Gods earth should that ever be accepted. Never mind under age teenagers. Anyone who who even contemplates such a thing is filth. The shit on my shoes. Todays arrests included policemen. Scout leaders. Solicitors ffs. People in power. MP's are as bad but doubt those won't be mentioned whilst others are thrown to wolve's and used as scapegoats. Disgusting behaviour and any cover up will eventually come to light. Should bring back hanging. Soon see a drop in offences then. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 From what I read about the arrests there were no mp's arrested. The hysteria that is being generated in the press just makes me a little uneasy. I thinking of Cleveland and the Hebrides where widespread abuse was reported. Yet was totally unfounded, it was later proved. From the reports I have read, the police will not say how they caught these people. A sting operation perhaps with false web sites? To my mind it does not really matter how they have caught these people, the fact that they have can only be for the good. Paedophilia has always existed, perhaps always will? In some countries it was acceptable if the wife died the eldest daughter took her place in the fathers bed. Personally I know of one case where a 14 year old girl was made pregnant by a man over 50, and another case where a girl had to leave school at 14 because she was pregnant and the rumour was that her father was the babies father. Those were both back in the 1960's. One thing I do find odd is that there was not the condemnation of paedophilia then, the same as there is now. I know this may seem odd to say, but even though people knew it was wrong, it was sort of accepted that some people were like that. Granted that was before the internet and child porn sites. Thankfully today we are more aware, but it does make me wonder, how many children are being preyed on by their parents, but go unnoticed? TC Butler Schloss headed the Cleveland inquiry, she did a good job .I don't know about incest with children being accepted I remember a bloke from where I was born, a very rough and ready area,he shagged his daughter ,he got an almighty hammering from persons who shall remain anonymous .Its a cancer that has always been with us, but with quicker and more varied media it gets more exposure imo. A brief blast on R4 just now coming home with the dogs,think some homes have been raided today.I know what you mean about the hysterical reaction to the revelations ,very dangerous, its such a heinous crime people have a tendency to overeact ,which is ok if we know for sure the suspects are guilty. That's is what pissed me off when some on here began throwing the names of dead men around without any proof to back them. Easy to throw mud, hard to remove it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Inan, There is no stereotypical person that is a Paedophile, they come from all walks of life, from the lowest of the low to the highest of the high. No class of person is immune from this disease. The problem is, such is the mentality of these people, that even though they are law abiding in all other aspects of their lives, they still do not see they are doing anything wrong. It seems as if they have no concept of the consequences of their actions, either that, or they just do not care. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Inan, There is no stereotypical person that is a Paedophile, they come from all walks of life, from the lowest of the low to the highest of the high. No class of person is immune from this disease. The problem is, such is the mentality of these people, that even though they are law abiding in all other aspects of their lives, they still do not see they are doing anything wrong. It seems as if they have no concept of the consequences of their actions, either that, or they just do not care. TC I never thought there was a typical child molester.There are upperclass ,middle class, working class, married and single filth that prey on children. I believe these creatures know exactly what they are doing and that it is wrong, otherwise why would they go to such great lengths to cover it up and avoid detection? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Inan, There is no stereotypical person that is a Paedophile, they come from all walks of life, from the lowest of the low to the highest of the high. No class of person is immune from this disease. The problem is, such is the mentality of these people, that even though they are law abiding in all other aspects of their lives, they still do not see they are doing anything wrong. It seems as if they have no concept of the consequences of their actions, either that, or they just do not care. TC I never thought there was a typical child molester.There are upperclass ,middle class, working class, married and single filth that prey on children. I believe these creatures know exactly what they are doing and that it is wrong, otherwise why would they go to such great lengths to cover it up and avoid detection? This is where we differ, I do not believe they think that they are wrong in doing what they do. In fact I think they think that we are wrong for seeing anything untowards with what they do. What is totally abhorrent to us is in their mind perfectly natural. What is worrying is the amount of people in high places that were for their own reasons members of PIE. I am not going to speculate why they were members, just mentioning the fact that there were people in the cabinet (well a couple of days ago at least) that were members of PIE. Their membership is a matter of public record so no unfounded accusations there. When this thread started I was reminded of a chap that stayed in the same digs as me in the early 80's. Who, come the middle of the week and we no money left, we all had to stay in and watch telly. Any time he seen a young attractive girl on the telly, would state that he could give her one. when confronted, his argument was if they are old enough to bleed they they are old enough to breed. May have been a bit of bravado on his behalf, but maybe, just maybe it has a grain of truth of the thought process of paedophiles? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think 1 Or 2 May Have "Sir" Before There Name , No Matter What Anyone Says Those Getting Investigated In This Inquiry Are Those Who Held Powerful Positions & Had Powerful Friends , The Run Off The Mill Child Abuser Isn't Involved As They'd Off Not Had There Crime Brushed Under The Carpet , Thats Why Its Important No One In That Click Or Has Close Connections To Those Named / Involved Has Anything To Do With The Inquiry !! "Powerful positions and powerful friends ,"yet they are under investigation? Isn't that two and two making five? Those parlimentarian figures due to be investigated and still above ground, will be interviewed under the auspices of the NCA to be headed by the Chairman of the NSPCC.Hope he meets with approval? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189072 What The Are You On About . . Powerful Positions & Powerful Friends Yes . . So Elaborate On How That Is Wrong . . You Really Are Strange Mate !! These People Who Are a Under Investigation Are The Rich , Powerful & Famous Who Have Preyed On Children & Tonight It's Been Released How Police Where Turning A Blind Eye To Cyril Smiths Antics , Oh Great Another Dead Man Named , Get Those Who Can Be Tried Named Leon Britain Will Do For Starters !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 There is a public tiolet in close proximity to a major courtroom in London used by rent-boys and judges, it's the only tiolet in the british isles that requires a 24hr official notice to be raided. They all took the piss out of Manning when he was letting Meldew know he was well on to him, there was no flies on Manning, he also called Rolf very early doors, the same rolf who wet his fingers in his mouth before digitaly entering a 7yr old. 'Bigguns Bernard'. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 When this thread started I was reminded of a chap that stayed in the same digs as me in the early 80's. Who, come the middle of the week and we no money left, we all had to stay in and watch telly. Any time he seen a young attractive girl on the telly, would state that he could give her one. when confronted, his argument was if they are old enough to bleed they they are old enough to breed. May have been a bit of bravado on his behalf, but maybe, just maybe it has a grain of truth of the thought process of paedophiles? TC More alarming Tiers is discovering the number of males who don't actually know why the age of consent is 16yrs (in this country) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 modern society is in a fcuking mess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think 1 Or 2 May Have "Sir" Before There Name , No Matter What Anyone Says Those Getting Investigated In This Inquiry Are Those Who Held Powerful Positions & Had Powerful Friends , The Run Off The Mill Child Abuser Isn't Involved As They'd Off Not Had There Crime Brushed Under The Carpet , Thats Why Its Important No One In That Click Or Has Close Connections To Those Named / Involved Has Anything To Do With The Inquiry !!"Powerful positions and powerful friends ,"yet they are under investigation? Isn't that two and two making five? Those parlimentarian figures due to be investigated and still above ground, will be interviewed under the auspices of the NCA to be headed by the Chairman of the NSPCC.Hope he meets with approval? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189072 What The Are You On About . . Powerful Positions & Powerful Friends Yes . . So Elaborate On How That Is Wrong . . You Really Are Strange Mate !! These People Who Are a Under Investigation Are The Rich , Powerful & Famous Who Have Preyed On Children & Tonight It's Been Released How Police Where Turning A Blind Eye To Cyril Smiths Antics , Oh Great Another Dead Man Named , Get Those Who Can Be Tried Named Leon Britain Will Do For Starters !! Weren't you screaming about how it would all be covered up?Nothing strange about treating a man as innocent until he is proven guilty, you just want a lynch mob. The Smith case got a full programme months ago,its old news. If there is enough evidence to bring a prosecution against Leon Brittan then he should be tried .Do you know that there is? Or.are you just rattling your cage again? You have a penchant for naming names without proof of wrongdoing maybe this is the wrong country for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think 1 Or 2 May Have "Sir" Before There Name , No Matter What Anyone Says Those Getting Investigated In This Inquiry Are Those Who Held Powerful Positions & Had Powerful Friends , The Run Off The Mill Child Abuser Isn't Involved As They'd Off Not Had There Crime Brushed Under The Carpet , Thats Why Its Important No One In That Click Or Has Close Connections To Those Named / Involved Has Anything To Do With The Inquiry !! "Powerful positions and powerful friends ,"yet they are under investigation? Isn't that two and two making five? Those parlimentarian figures due to be investigated and still above ground, will be interviewed under the auspices of the NCA to be headed by the Chairman of the NSPCC.Hope he meets with approval? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189072 What The Are You On About . . Powerful Positions & Powerful Friends Yes . . So Elaborate On How That Is Wrong . . You Really Are Strange Mate !! These People Who Are a Under Investigation Are The Rich , Powerful & Famous Who Have Preyed On Children & Tonight It's Been Released How Police Where Turning A Blind Eye To Cyril Smiths Antics , Oh Great Another Dead Man Named , Get Those Who Can Be Tried Named Leon Britain Will Do For Starters !! Weren't you screaming about how it would all be covered up?Nothing strange about treating a man as innocent until he is proven guilty, you just want a lynch mob.The Smith case got a full programme months ago,its old news. If there is enough evidence to bring a prosecution against Leon Brittan then he should be tried .Do you know that there is? Or.are you just rattling your cage again? You have a penchant for naming names without proof of wrongdoing maybe this is the wrong country for you? "Screaming" . . No Mate I Was Disagreeing With You When You Where All For The Inquiry To Be Headed By Someone With Vested Interest . . As For Innocent Until Proven Guilty , There Is Enough Names Named All Over The Internet & Those Named Have Done & Said Nothing Yet These Same People Sue For Libel At The Drop Off A Hat Let Alone Allegations Off This Nature . . As For Smith Being Named Mths Ago Thats My Point THERE THROWING HIS NAME IN AGAIN ? . Why Well I Will Tell You Why To Pacify People . Are You Gullible Enough To Think Leon Britain Would Let His Name Be Banded About With Out Replying ?? Rattling My Cage Again . . Well Where These Crimes Have Happened I Think Any Right Minded Person Should Until ALL The Evidence Has Been Put Forward No Matter Who Is Involved . . As For Wrong Country , I Wouldn't Live In Your Country For All The T In China Mate !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) hope this topic don't get the chop like mine fair play to frazdog for getting it back on track Edited July 17, 2014 by Hareydave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 The law in itself noone cares about when it comes to age. When I was 14 me and mates were shagging birds of our age group. Thing is if a birds 16 IMO she's just a kid. My brothers mate is 18 and she's sleeping with a bloke who's in his late 30s. She might think she's an adult n legally she may be but to me she's immature so what's she like to a bloke if that age. His also married with kids and reckons that's the reason he can't leave his wife. Dropped that to her after weeks of her thinking he would. Left her alone for a while but back shagging her again and she's so loved up probably because his abit more mature than her age group so treats her better. Tried telling her she's just being used but seems to fall on deaf ears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think 1 Or 2 May Have "Sir" Before There Name , No Matter What Anyone Says Those Getting Investigated In This Inquiry Are Those Who Held Powerful Positions & Had Powerful Friends , The Run Off The Mill Child Abuser Isn't Involved As They'd Off Not Had There Crime Brushed Under The Carpet , Thats Why Its Important No One In That Click Or Has Close Connections To Those Named / Involved Has Anything To Do With The Inquiry !!"Powerful positions and powerful friends ,"yet they are under investigation? Isn't that two and two making five? Those parlimentarian figures due to be investigated and still above ground, will be interviewed under the auspices of the NCA to be headed by the Chairman of the NSPCC.Hope he meets with approval? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189072 What The Are You On About . . Powerful Positions & Powerful Friends Yes . . So Elaborate On How That Is Wrong . . You Really Are Strange Mate !! These People Who Are a Under Investigation Are The Rich , Powerful & Famous Who Have Preyed On Children & Tonight It's Been Released How Police Where Turning A Blind Eye To Cyril Smiths Antics , Oh Great Another Dead Man Named , Get Those Who Can Be Tried Named Leon Britain Will Do For Starters !!Weren't you screaming about how it would all be covered up?Nothing strange about treating a man as innocent until he is proven guilty, you just want a lynch mob.The Smith case got a full programme months ago,its old news. If there is enough evidence to bring a prosecution against Leon Brittan then he should be tried .Do you know that there is? Or.are you just rattling your cage again? You have a penchant for naming names without proof of wrongdoing maybe this is the wrong country for you? "Screaming" . . No Mate I Was Disagreeing With You When You Where All For The Inquiry To Be Headed By Someone With Vested Interest . . As For Innocent Until Proven Guilty , There Is Enough Names Named All Over The Internet & Those Named Have Done & Said Nothing Yet These Same People Sue For Libel At The Drop Off A Hat Let Alone Allegations Off This Nature . . As For Smith Being Named Mths Ago Thats My Point THERE THROWING HIS NAME IN AGAIN ? . Why Well I Will Tell You Why To Pacify People . Are You Gullible Enough To Think Leon Britain Would Let His Name Be Banded About With Out Replying ?? Rattling My Cage Again . . Well Where These Crimes Have Happened I Think Any Right Minded Person Should Until ALL The Evidence Has Been Put Forward No Matter Who Is Involved . . As For Wrong Country , I Wouldn't Live In Your Country For All The T In China Mate !! I was all for fairplay and people not having their names bandied about on a public forum without a shred of proof that they had taken part in any wrongdoing,and that includes Butler Schloss. Yyou have a weird idea of justice. I'm happy you dont want to inhabit my country . You stay in your's, Cloud Cuckoo Land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest vin Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 The law in itself noone cares about when it comes to age. When I was 14 me and mates were shagging birds of our age group. Thing is if a birds 16 IMO she's just a kid. My brothers mate is 18 and she's sleeping with a bloke who's in his late 30s. She might think she's an adult n legally she may be but to me she's immature so what's she like to a bloke if that age. His also married with kids and reckons that's the reason he can't leave his wife. Dropped that to her after weeks of her thinking he would. Left her alone for a while but back shagging her again and she's so loved up probably because his abit more mature than her age group so treats her better. Tried telling her she's just being used but seems to fall on deaf ears. I would be having a polite word with him if she doesnt listen to reason. . . . he is a dirty old man and needs to be told. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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