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deffo eastern bloc lingo not sure which though, lad deffo had something left as he covered up or tried to, but agree he been done a bit before that last few digs, don't think its same kiddy in other pic who beat the dog, taking from the vid its skinheads I doubt there was only one of them present, them sorts never seen alone , only ever in large groups, too many enemies lol nast business, doubt it would of killed um though

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Fight or flight is an instinct not a decision making process .....The urge to move forward is just as natural in some as the urge to move backwards is in others......just depends how an individual is

Mate he was awake and compus mentus I would have to be dead to allow that guy to be doing that to me ... He lay there like a fukcing coward just accepting his fate ... Not for me I'm afraid ... If you

What he done to the dog was bang out of order , but to beat someone up like that was sick , the lad who beat him is lucky hes not on a murder charge

I wouldn't be laying there like a cowering bitch I can guarantee you that ..........

 

You've nearly turned your opinion into fact there sockitoem....guilt can make a human simply accept the beating.

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Which bit lost ya...there's not a lot of words to get confused over, perhaps you're reading them in correlation to how you think, sometimes that causes confusion...your....opinion....that....someone.....is....curring-out....is.....not...a....fact (innit) Sometimes....humans....clam-up....when ....guilt.....at...the.....reasons.....for.....beating......overwhelm.....them...a ....beating.....for.....some......humans....trumps......guilt.

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His coupon looks worse than it is, some of they punches looked awkward and I doubt they done much damage, now if it was one on one then yes he could have put up a better ding dong but I assume there was a few boys gave him the initial do in and then they decided to film the end credits, I'm glad I've seen it as I was expecting just a big blob of blood for a face, eyes swollen shut and a nose like a roller coaster, I remember getting jumped by 4 lads walking back from the pub the week after sparking out their mate, I just curled up in a ball and took a few digs (toe bash to the eye was worse than getting stabbed in the head with a bottle) eventually they f****d off and left me, 4 days later I saw one in the bookies and extracted a bit of revenge, and the weekend after that I walked into the boozer with a few of my mates and offered each of them in the car park for a square go one at a time, revenge is sweet, after that we drew a line under it as it could've went on forever,

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no attempt to move cover up or anything , would of liked to see how he was when they first give it to him if he took it like that ,either beaten that bad he dont know whats happening or drunk ,drugged IF its the same bloke dont think hell do it again

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I wouldn't be laying there like a cowering bitch I can guarantee you that ..........

Socks its an admireable stance to take......and one we all like to think we,d take in that scenario.........ive had the absolute shit kicked out of me on more than a few occassions,you dont end up with a boat race the state of mine if you havent :D ......ive never quit on physical pain in my life but their comes a point when regardless of your mental strength and tenacity..........your body just doesnt go anymore.

Absolutely agree and I have the busted up nose and facial scars to know where you are coming from but I just didn't think that fella was at that stage and he just bellied up and took it instead of saving himself some punishment ... Watch it a few times and you can see the guy has just given up ........

 

 

Without seeing what went on before who can tell what kind of show he put up all im saying is most combatants human or animal quit when the tank is empty not on pain/injuries...adrenalin is a wonderful thing after all !........... if he had nothing left to give its the end simple going out on your shield/gameness is not about taking a beating its about actively still trying to come out victorious.

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His coupon looks worse than it is, some of they punches looked awkward and I doubt they done much damage, now if it was one on one then yes he could have put up a better ding dong but I assume there was a few boys gave him the initial do in and then they decided to film the end credits, I'm glad I've seen it as I was expecting just a big blob of blood for a face, eyes swollen shut and a nose like a roller coaster, I remember getting jumped by 4 lads walking back from the pub the week after sparking out their mate, I just curled up in a ball and took a few digs (toe bash to the eye was worse than getting stabbed in the head with a bottle) eventually they f****d off and left me, 4 days later I saw one in the bookies and extracted a bit of revenge, and the weekend after that I walked into the boozer with a few of my mates and offered each of them in the car park for a square go one at a time, revenge is sweet, after that we drew a line under it as it could've went on forever,

 

Exactly the point I was trying to make. Sometimes it's better to just take a lesser beating than fight back and garuntee something really serious. It's all well and good if you fancy your chances but ffs when you know you're f****d, why risk getting killed? You showed a lot of sense in my opinion, the odds were shite, take the beating, regroup and come back with the odds garunteed in your favour. Cowardice or smart?

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Fight or flight is an instinct not a decision making process .....The urge to move forward is just as natural in some as the urge to move backwards is in others......just depends how an individual is made.

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Fight or flight is an instinct not a decision making process .....The urge to move forward is just as natural in some as the urge to move backwards is in others......just depends how an individual is made.

Deffiantly would agree with that. My little brother is 6ft 6 and 15 stone in decent shape. His had people take liberties which I wouldn't of allowed. Signs have been there from day 1 that his not a fighter. Let someone punch him so said why aint you hit him back. Cause all his mates will jump in...sorry but when hit in my books that shits out the window and you have it out. Anyway I hit the bloke not me being hard I just thought f**k it wake the brother up abit. Spoke to his pals as if I knew my brother was gonna back it and thankfully he did. He ended up dropping 2 and rest stood their shouting. Not a typical I'm hard behind keyboard thread though. My brothers bigger than me but just don't like fighting.

 

It's not the size of the dog fighting but size of the fight in the dog.

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I wouldn't be laying there like a cowering bitch I can guarantee you that ..........

 

Socks its an admireable stance to take......and one we all like to think we,d take in that scenario.........ive had the absolute shit kicked out of me on more than a few occassions,you dont end up with a boat race the state of mine if you havent :D ......ive never quit on physical pain in my life but their comes a point when regardless of your mental strength and tenacity..........your body just doesnt go anymore.

Absolutely agree and I have the busted up nose and facial scars to know where you are coming from but I just didn't think that fella was at that stage and he just bellied up and took it instead of saving himself some punishment ... Watch it a few times and you can see the guy has just given up ........

Without seeing what went on before who can tell what kind of show he put up all im saying is most combatants human or animal quit when the tank is empty not on pain/injuries...adrenalin is a wonderful thing after all !........... if he had nothing left to give its the end simple going out on your shield/gameness is not about taking a beating its about actively still trying to come out victorious.

I know what your saying gnash but if that was you on the floor with somebody laying into you when he fancied it and being filmed for the world to see would you have behaved like that lad or would you still be putting up a fight ??? .......

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Fight or flight is an instinct not a decision making process .....The urge to move forward is just as natural in some as the urge to move backwards is in others......just depends how an individual is made.

 

 

For some perhaps... But are you really saying that people who would gladly fight one on one aren't capable of making the decision to take a hiding when completely outnumbered in favour of a more preferable outcome? We might be creatures of instinct but we're sentient enough to not be ruled by them. A persons fight or flight response is dictated by the situation as much as their general mental attitude. It's not as black and white as you're making out there imo.

 

Fight flight freeze are involuntary reactions, not everybody let's their instincts completely control them.

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Fight or flight is an instinct not a decision making process .....The urge to move forward is just as natural in some as the urge to move backwards is in others......just depends how an individual is made.

 

For some perhaps... But are you really saying that people who would gladly fight one on one aren't capable of making the decision to take a hiding when completely outnumbered in favour of a more preferable outcome? We might be creatures of instinct but we're sentient enough to not be ruled by them. A persons fight or flight response is dictated by the situation as much as their general mental attitude. It's not as black and white as you're making out there imo.

 

Fight flight freeze are involuntary reactions, not everybody let's their instincts completely control them.

I agree with that,it's how you perceive the situation which allows you to overcome your instincts.

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You've lost me there fella ......

I'd say he ment if deep down you knew you deserved it then maybe a subconcouse responce or something like it would be for your body to give up and take the hiding you deserve,i could be fecking miles out wrong mind :laugh:

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