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David icke been sayin this about the rolyals and masons and how they nonce kids for years and he's been laughed at for it all seems to be coming out now though

In my opinion this enquiry should be headed by somebody that has absolutely no links to the government or House of Lords and should be in touch with current issues on child protection ... Somebody lik

Thatcher was most definitely a massive paedo...............she took loads of miners and f****d them all

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Inan The Way Your Defending This Woman & HOPING This Woman Will Act Fairly Is A Dangerous Game In A Case This Important . . Why Do You Defend Her ? Do You KNOW For Certain She Would Act Fairly ? The Answer To That Is "NO" . . Where Talking About Children Being Abused By Members Off Government & The So Called Higher Arcy , And It Then Being Swept Under The Carpet By Other Members Off Parliment & Civil Servants & Police !! So As Someone Said This Inquiry Needs Headed By Someone As Far Away From Government As Possible , Certain Politicians & Tv (So Called) Stars Being Named Over The Net & Not 1 Coming Out Too Defend These Allegations . . The Silence Is Defening Ooooops Forgot The Person Who Normally Defends These People Is Doing 6yrs For Abusing Children !! Just 1 Example Concerning These People Harriet Harman Deputy Labour Leader Lobbying Ministers In The 70s For Naked Pictures Off Children Not Too Be Classed As Indecent As Long As The Child Wasn't Harmed . . That Is What Some Off These So Called Pillars Off Society Are About & Thats Why This Inquiry Should Be Overseen By A Person/Persons With No Ties To These People What-So-Ever !!

This woman as you call her chaired the Cleveland inquiry in which more than a hundred parents were wrongly accused of abusing their own children.This was an inquiry which came about because of the activities of a single paediatrician Marietta Higgs who got things calamitously wrong, the flames were then fanned by just the type of hysteria I'm seeing here.

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Butler-Sloss 'kept claims of bishop’s abuse quiet because she did not want the allegations to surface as she "cared about the Church"'

The former choir boy claims she said: ‘The Press would love a bishop'

Comments were reportedly made in 2011 during a meeting at House of Lords

By DANIEL MARTIN

PUBLISHED: 02:38, 12 July 2014 | UPDATED: 16:24, 12 July 2014

 

The retired judge appointed this week to head an inquiry into VIP child abuse kept allegations about a bishop out of a report into a paedophile scandal, it was claimed last night.

Baroness Butler-Sloss is said to have told a victim of alleged abuse she did not want the claims to be in the public domain as she ‘cared about the Church’.

The former choir boy claims she said: ‘The Press would love a bishop.’

Labour MP Simon Danczuk, who has helped expose claims paedophiles were operating in Westminster in past decades, renewed his call for her to step down as chairman of the new inquiry

 

Baroness Butler-Sloss is said to have told a victim of alleged abuse she did not want the claims to be in the public domain

 

Baroness Butler-Sloss, right, is said to have told a victim of alleged abuse she did not want the claims to be in the public domain. Labour MP Simon Danczuk, left, helped expose claims paedophiles were operating in Westminster in past decades

Labour MP Simon Danczuk, who has helped expose claims paedophiles were operating in Westminster in past decades, renewed his call for her to step down as chairman of the new inquiry.

Her appointment has already come under fire as she is the brother-in-law of Sir Michael Havers, a former Attorney General in the 1980s – when the abuse is alleged to have taken place.

Her comments were reportedly made in 2011 during a meeting at the House of Lords with Phil Johnson, who suffered assaults by a number of clergymen when he was a choirboy in the Church of England Diocese of Chichester.

 

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Baroness Butler-Sloss had been put in charge of an investigation into how the Church handled the abuse allegations.

She allegedly told Mr Johnson if she included the claims about the bishop in her report they’d ‘take the news’.

Mr Danczuk said: ‘She gives the impression that she is putting the reputation of the Church before the interests of victims.’

Baroness Butler-Sloss told The Times: ‘I have always striven to be fair and compassionate, mindful of the very real suffering of those who have been victims of crime or other injustice.

'I have never put the reputation of any institution, including the Church of England, above the pursuit of justice for victims. That is why I am honoured to be leading this inquiry.’

 

when does the whitewash ...........sorry inquiry start.

 

Under the auspices of the National Crime Agency 46 names have been identified as potential suspects, 20 have been arrested, with a further 8 interviewed under caution.Officers from 13 constabularies in the UK along with officers in North Wales and Northern Ireland are currently investigating allegations in North Wales ,Northern Ireland and the UK mainland.

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http://fallingmasonry.info/index.html

 

There you go.

 

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This is a piece of rubbish without even an attributed author.Its purpose is to confirm and encourage deeply held prejudices. ,Targeting people who are entirely ignorant of the subject on which they so readily pontificate without knowing what the f**k they are talking about.

 

It was posted as a piece of information on who is a mason or not. There was no malice implied. I do believe they give the source of the information not just named at random.

 

As far as the Freemasons go, they are a secret society, therefore people are understandably curious and perhaps a little bit in awe of this secret society, so are prone to speculation. People tend not to like things they do not understand.

 

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Inan The Way Your Defending This Woman & HOPING This Woman Will Act Fairly Is A Dangerous Game In A Case This Important . . Why Do You Defend Her ? Do You KNOW For Certain She Would Act Fairly ? The Answer To That Is "NO" . . Where Talking About Children Being Abused By Members Off Government & The So Called Higher Arcy , And It Then Being Swept Under The Carpet By Other Members Off Parliment & Civil Servants & Police !! So As Someone Said This Inquiry Needs Headed By Someone As Far Away From Government As Possible , Certain Politicians & Tv (So Called) Stars Being Named Over The Net & Not 1 Coming Out Too Defend These Allegations . . The Silence Is Defening Ooooops Forgot The Person Who Normally Defends These People Is Doing 6yrs For Abusing Children !! Just 1 Example Concerning These People Harriet Harman Deputy Labour Leader Lobbying Ministers In The 70s For Naked Pictures Off Children Not Too Be Classed As Indecent As Long As The Child Wasn't Harmed . . That Is What Some Off These So Called Pillars Off Society Are About & Thats Why This Inquiry Should Be Overseen By A Person/Persons With No Ties To These People What-So-Ever !!

 

This woman as you call her chaired the Cleveland inquiry in which more than a hundred parents were wrongly accused of abusing their own children.This was an inquiry which came about because of the activities of a single paediatrician Marietta Higgs who got things calamitously wrong, the flames were then fanned by just the type of hysteria I'm seeing here.
So She Overseen An Inquiry That Had No Connection What-So-Ever To Her Family , Collegues & Friends . . Thats Exacly Mine & Lots Off Other People's Point . . SHE HAS CONNECTIONS TO CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO SHE WILL BE INVESTIGATING IN THIS INQUIRY , Which Is Why This Woman Should Stand Down From The Inquiry , In Fact She Shouldn't Off Been Appointed In The First Place Because Off Her Connections With Certain Powers That Be . And Anyone Who Can't See That Either Have Tunnel Vision Or Just Can't Bring Themselves To Believe These People Are Corrupt When It Suits . . Bankers Bonus's , Cash For Questions , Illegally Invading Countries , Expense Fiddles , Child Abuse The List Is Endless !!
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Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministers

Jul 12, 2014 22:48 By Nick Buckley, Keir Mudie.

The Tory Prime Minister is said to have held a meeting with a rising star, who was tipped for promotion, and told him: “You have to clean up your sexual act”

Margaret Thatcher personally covered up child abuse ­allegations made against one of her senior ministers, according to explosive new claims.

The Sunday People reports Tory Prime Minister is said to have held a high-powered meeting with the rising star, who was being tipped for promotion, and told him: “You have to clean up your sexual act.”

It followed an allegation that the minister had sexually abused young boys at the home of one of his political allies in 1982.

However the minister apparently ignored the warnings.

It is claimed that four years later he was spotted by police seeking young boys for sex at Victoria railway station in London.

But no action was taken.

The extraordinary claims – made to the Sunday People by a source with inside knowledge of Scotland Yard in the early 1980s – are now expected to be put before the Westminster child abuse ­inquiry announced last week by the Prime Minister.

They go to the very heart of claims that there was an Establishment cover-up to protect politicians , judges and police officers involved in a sick ­paedophile network.

David Cameron has already agreed to a full-scale investigation into historical allegations of child abuse.

PABaroness Butler-SlossInvestigation: Lady Butler-Sloss
He has appointed Lady Butler-Sloss, a retired senior judge who chaired the Cleveland child abuse inquiry in the late 1980s, to head the investigation.

And although the probe is in its ­infancy, its findings could be explosive – particularly if evidence emerges that a former Prime Minister knew about the allegations.

Labour MP Tom Watson said: “If true, these extraordinary ­revelations reveal a remarkable state of affairs – so much so that they’re almost impossible to imagine.

“Yet that is what people said about Jimmy Savile and look what happened with him.

“These claims should be investigated by the new child-abuse inquiry.”

According to the source, the minister’s alleged interest in abusing young boys first came to light after he stayed at the home of a constituency agent.

The agent, responsible for ­securing local election success for the Tory MP, is believed to have alerted authorities.

A high-level meeting involving then Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher, Home Secretary Willie Whitelaw, a senior ­policeman and an MI5 officer was held to discuss his alleged behaviour.

The minister, according to the source, was then summoned to 10 Downing Street.

But, instead of being disciplined or sacked, the minister was warned about his future behaviour and the matter was swept under the carpet.

Four years later, fresh allegations surfaced.

 

Sunday People 20 04 2014 Led the way: The Sunday People from April 20 of this year

In 1986, the politician was alleged to have been found seeking rent boys in the men’s toilets at Victoria railway station in central London.

The toilets were the target of an undercover sting by Scotland Yard detectives.

Officers approached the minister and warned him about his behaviour. It is believed a report was filed by a CID officer.

Our source says this information was relayed personally to him at the time by Alec Marnoch, a highly respected police officer and Operations Commander of the Yard’s No 8 Area which covers Westminster and the West End.

Mr Marnoch, who died aged 58 in 1999 soon after his retirement, also ­intimated to the source that police working in Piccadilly Circus had got a report of the same politician importuning at one of London’s most notorious rent-boy haunts – the “chicken rack”.

The “chicken rack” was a set of metal railings close to Piccadilly underground station which was a vice hotspot in the 1980s.

Boys as young as 13 waited there to be picked up by men for sex – often VIPs such as politicians, TV stars or even policemen.

Scotland Yard was unable to confirm whether the politician had been named in connection with either the “chicken rack” or Victoria Station.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said: “We will fully co-operate with the panel chaired by Baroness Butler-Sloss and provide detail of relevant information.

AFP/GettyInvestigation: Labour MP Tom Watson is calling for a new inquiry
“While these and live police investigations are ongoing it would be inappropriate to comment further.”

The Sunday People has been leading the way since Mr Watson first stunned Parliament and PM David Cameron in October 2012 with claims of a high-profile paedophile network with links to 10 Downing Street.

Since breaking the story, we have produced a string of exclusives about the alleged VIP paedophile ring and reveal how far it reached.

We first revealed the existence of the “Dickens dossier” which was ­handed to then Home Secretary Leon Brittan.

Its disappearance has prompted the Butler-Sloss inquiry.

The dossier, compiled by now-dead MP Geoffrey Dickens , contained information that would blow the lid off a secret VIP paedophile network, according to Mr Dickens’s son Barry.

He says that in the weeks after his father submitted the dossier, the family’s home was twice “professionally” burgled.

The Home Office admits there is no trace of the dossier and that 114 “potentially relevant files” have been destroyed or lost.

The Home Office was forced to defend Baroness Butler-Sloss, 80, after it was claimed she buried allegations about a bishop from a child-abuse review in 2011.

She reportedly told a victim she did not want to include the allegations in a review of how the Church of England dealt with two paedophile priests because she “cared about the Church” and “the Press would love a bishop”.

A Home Office spokesman said: “The integrity of Baroness Butler-Sloss is beyond reproach and we stand by her appointment unreservedly.”

 

In other words we dont give a toss what you think a butler sloss...... shes heading the inquiry!!

 

now go back to sleep...... nothing to see here folks...... the world cup finals on at 8........ :D

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-personally-covered-up-3848836#ixzz37MeBueWr

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Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministers

Jul 12, 2014 22:48 By Nick Buckley, Keir Mudie.

The Tory Prime Minister is said to have held a meeting with a rising star, who was tipped for promotion, and told him: “You have to clean up your sexual act”

Margaret Thatcher personally covered up child abuse ­allegations made against one of her senior ministers, according to explosive new claims.

The Sunday People reports Tory Prime Minister is said to have held a high-powered meeting with the rising star, who was being tipped for promotion, and told him: “You have to clean up your sexual act.”

It followed an allegation that the minister had sexually abused young boys at the home of one of his political allies in 1982.

However the minister apparently ignored the warnings.

It is claimed that four years later he was spotted by police seeking young boys for sex at Victoria railway station in London.

But no action was taken.

The extraordinary claims – made to the Sunday People by a source with inside knowledge of Scotland Yard in the early 1980s – are now expected to be put before the Westminster child abuse ­inquiry announced last week by the Prime Minister.

They go to the very heart of claims that there was an Establishment cover-up to protect politicians , judges and police officers involved in a sick ­paedophile network.

David Cameron has already agreed to a full-scale investigation into historical allegations of child abuse.

PABaroness Butler-SlossInvestigation: Lady Butler-Sloss

He has appointed Lady Butler-Sloss, a retired senior judge who chaired the Cleveland child abuse inquiry in the late 1980s, to head the investigation.

And although the probe is in its ­infancy, its findings could be explosive – particularly if evidence emerges that a former Prime Minister knew about the allegations.

Labour MP Tom Watson said: “If true, these extraordinary ­revelations reveal a remarkable state of affairs – so much so that they’re almost impossible to imagine.

“Yet that is what people said about Jimmy Savile and look what happened with him.

“These claims should be investigated by the new child-abuse inquiry.”

According to the source, the minister’s alleged interest in abusing young boys first came to light after he stayed at the home of a constituency agent.

The agent, responsible for ­securing local election success for the Tory MP, is believed to have alerted authorities.

A high-level meeting involving then Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher, Home Secretary Willie Whitelaw, a senior ­policeman and an MI5 officer was held to discuss his alleged behaviour.

The minister, according to the source, was then summoned to 10 Downing Street.

But, instead of being disciplined or sacked, the minister was warned about his future behaviour and the matter was swept under the carpet.

Four years later, fresh allegations surfaced.

 

Sunday People 20 04 2014 Led the way: The Sunday People from April 20 of this year

In 1986, the politician was alleged to have been found seeking rent boys in the men’s toilets at Victoria railway station in central London.

The toilets were the target of an undercover sting by Scotland Yard detectives.

Officers approached the minister and warned him about his behaviour. It is believed a report was filed by a CID officer.

Our source says this information was relayed personally to him at the time by Alec Marnoch, a highly respected police officer and Operations Commander of the Yard’s No 8 Area which covers Westminster and the West End.

Mr Marnoch, who died aged 58 in 1999 soon after his retirement, also ­intimated to the source that police working in Piccadilly Circus had got a report of the same politician importuning at one of London’s most notorious rent-boy haunts – the “chicken rack”.

The “chicken rack” was a set of metal railings close to Piccadilly underground station which was a vice hotspot in the 1980s.

Boys as young as 13 waited there to be picked up by men for sex – often VIPs such as politicians, TV stars or even policemen.

Scotland Yard was unable to confirm whether the politician had been named in connection with either the “chicken rack” or Victoria Station.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said: “We will fully co-operate with the panel chaired by Baroness Butler-Sloss and provide detail of relevant information.

AFP/GettyInvestigation: Labour MP Tom Watson is calling for a new inquiry

“While these and live police investigations are ongoing it would be inappropriate to comment further.”

The Sunday People has been leading the way since Mr Watson first stunned Parliament and PM David Cameron in October 2012 with claims of a high-profile paedophile network with links to 10 Downing Street.

Since breaking the story, we have produced a string of exclusives about the alleged VIP paedophile ring and reveal how far it reached.

We first revealed the existence of the “Dickens dossier” which was ­handed to then Home Secretary Leon Brittan.

Its disappearance has prompted the Butler-Sloss inquiry.

The dossier, compiled by now-dead MP Geoffrey Dickens , contained information that would blow the lid off a secret VIP paedophile network, according to Mr Dickens’s son Barry.

He says that in the weeks after his father submitted the dossier, the family’s home was twice “professionally” burgled.

The Home Office admits there is no trace of the dossier and that 114 “potentially relevant files” have been destroyed or lost.

The Home Office was forced to defend Baroness Butler-Sloss, 80, after it was claimed she buried allegations about a bishop from a child-abuse review in 2011.

She reportedly told a victim she did not want to include the allegations in a review of how the Church of England dealt with two paedophile priests because she “cared about the Church” and “the Press would love a bishop”.

A Home Office spokesman said: “The integrity of Baroness Butler-Sloss is beyond reproach and we stand by her appointment unreservedly.”

 

In other words we dont give a toss what you think a butler sloss...... shes heading the inquiry!!

 

now go back to sleep...... nothing to see here folks...... the world cup finals on at 8........ :D

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-personally-covered-up-3848836#ixzz37MeBueWr

 

that sounds like james young from northern ireland, your jimmy

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http://fallingmasonry.info/index.html

 

There you go.

 

TC

This is a piece of rubbish without even an attributed author.Its purpose is to confirm and encourage deeply held prejudices. ,Targeting people who are entirely ignorant of the subject on which they so readily pontificate without knowing what the f**k they are talking about.

 

It was posted as a piece of information on who is a mason or not. There was no malice implied. I do believe they give the source of the information not just named at random.

 

As far as the Freemasons go, they are a secret society, therefore people are understandably curious and perhaps a little bit in awe of this secret society, so are prone to speculation. People tend not to like things they do not understand.

 

TC

 

It doest say who is a Mason and who isn't,neither is that it's purpose it is just scaremongering bullshit

Freemasons are not a "secret society", they are a society with secrets there is a difference

Personally I tend to keep my mouth shut and keep an open mind about, " things I don't understand" .

.People tend to make false assumptions and form opinions about matters of which they are entirely ignorant.

 

This has been one such example, one without verified provenance and the motive behind it has succeeded in that people who don't know the first thing about it are ready to come to a knee jerk conclusion and give credence to a piece of rubbish all the while being led by the nose by a hack reporter whose name is not on the document.

I hope the gullible souls who swallow this crap are never in the position of deciding who is and isn't guilty on a murder trial,otherwise we might have more miscarriages of justice, the very situation they are braying most vociferously about at the present .

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whoever wrote that is about as unbiased as kkk member when it comes to discussing black issues :laugh: sometimes i wear a veterans badge for no other reason than i am a veteran :laugh::laugh:

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