oneredtrim 148 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Dickens the littlebrough kid raising the notion of satanic abuse in the commons is.... err... err... 'obtuse', i know Icke is easy enough to ridicule over such subjects but Dickens was adamandtheants about it and had already called things correct. Saville was extremly violent, dont be kidded, the beast Paul Sykes was his shutter-upper, though it went a bit wrong for him when he met the collyhurst middleweight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10963332/Baroness-Butler-Sloss-hid-claims-of-bishops-sex-abuse.html 'uckin mincers on it ^....'lark' Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 And just look who is to head the government "inquiry" ; the eminent ex High Court Judge Baroness Butler-Schloss !! Some one from the highest echelons of the establishment who will lead an inquiry into the...... errr...... establishment !!!!! How many buckets of white wash will be needed for this one ????Should have picked the local butcher don't you think?Butcher , Bin Man Or Any Other Working Class Ahead Off 1 Off There Own . . These People Have Become Untouchable As SOME People Treat Them Like Pop Idols To conduct an inquiry of this gravity with its potential far reaching consequences requires someone well versed in law,someone qualifed to sift through the mountains of documentary evidence ,both pro and con. There is also the very real possibility of those accused and convicted appealing the outcome. How many of those you named do you think would be able to confidently and professionally take on this task? I think you will find the,"pop idols" are the very people that are now being investigated and in some cases convicted. Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) And just look who is to head the government "inquiry" ; the eminent ex High Court Judge Baroness Butler-Schloss !! Some one from the highest echelons of the establishment who will lead an inquiry into the...... errr...... establishment !!!!! How many buckets of white wash will be needed for this one ????Should have picked the local butcher don't you think? No, not the local butcher, but maybe someone not so entrenched in the establishment and with family and professional connections. We have a foreigner as the head of the Bank of England , both the Tories and Labour have foreign senior advisors , perhaps some one from abroad, American, Australian, or someone else with a knowledge of the English language and culture, who hasn't been corrupted by the establishment and who would be truly independent . I have no confidence in Butler-Schloss, she is to close to the people she is investigating. You may think it will be fair....... I and many others think it will simply be another white wash. It's possible that with the mounting pressure on her Butler- Schloss will stand down. But at the present her reputation appears to be beyond reproach so you implying she has been "corrupted by the establishment" and that she would not be,"truly independent,"has at the present time no foundation . Like everyone else on here I hope the guilty parties are exposed and those still alive prosecuted and convicted. However, I find it highly distasteful ,not to say dangerous to smear some ones name without a shred of evidence or proof. I would feel the same if someone made similarly detrimental remarks about yourself or anyone else on here if they weren't accompanied by any proof or evidence. There have been some ridiculous statements made on this thread ,the most vociferous by those that cannot even spell the word paedo. A dead man who cannot defend himself has had his name bandied about on here, and that is just WRONG. Whatever happened to"innocent until proven guilty"? Not so long ago man was burned to death for supposedly being a paedo. No proof has ever emerged that he was guilty . There is no place for a Kangaroo Court on a public forum imo. What about todays revelation that she left out a Bishops name in a previous peodophile inquiry, as, in HER words; "she didn't want to hurt the church" ? Anyhow, it's not really a case of her being fair and impartial; it's a case of the APPEARANCE of being fair and impartial, and in my and many others minds, her being part of the very establishment she is charged with investigating there will allways be doubt about her impartiality. No,those are not her words,they are the words that are being attributed to her,see the difference? Edited July 12, 2014 by inan Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 what are the chances of picking someone who was a high court judge in the 70s and 80s to investigate suspects from the 70s and 80s , some of whom were high court judges? Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 what are the chances of picking someone who was a high court judge in the 70s and 80s to investigate suspects from the 70s and 80s , some of whom were high court judges? As I think I said in the previous post, you have to have someone who is qualified to oversee this . I hold no brief for high court judges,or most of the legal profession,apart from Baroness Helena Kennedy ,Baroness Ann Mallaliue,and Michael Mansfield QC. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 And just look who is to head the government "inquiry" ; the eminent ex High Court Judge Baroness Butler-Schloss !! Some one from the highest echelons of the establishment who will lead an inquiry into the...... errr...... establishment !!!!! How many buckets of white wash will be needed for this one ????Should have picked the local butcher don't you think? No, not the local butcher, but maybe someone not so entrenched in the establishment and with family and professional connections. We have a foreigner as the head of the Bank of England , both the Tories and Labour have foreign senior advisors , perhaps some one from abroad, American, Australian, or someone else with a knowledge of the English language and culture, who hasn't been corrupted by the establishment and who would be truly independent . I have no confidence in Butler-Schloss, she is to close to the people she is investigating. You may think it will be fair....... I and many others think it will simply be another white wash. It's possible that with the mounting pressure on her Butler- Schloss will stand down. But at the present her reputation appears to be beyond reproach so you implying she has been "corrupted by the establishment" and that she would not be,"truly independent,"has at the present time no foundation . Like everyone else on here I hope the guilty parties are exposed and those still alive prosecuted and convicted. However, I find it highly distasteful ,not to say dangerous to smear some ones name without a shred of evidence or proof. I would feel the same if someone made similarly detrimental remarks about yourself or anyone else on here if they weren't accompanied by any proof or evidence. There have been some ridiculous statements made on this thread ,the most vociferous by those that cannot even spell the word paedo. A dead man who cannot defend himself has had his name bandied about on here, and that is just WRONG. Whatever happened to"innocent until proven guilty"? Not so long ago man was burned to death for supposedly being a paedo. No proof has ever emerged that he was guilty . There is no place for a Kangaroo Court on a public forum imo. What about todays revelation that she left out a Bishops name in a previous peodophile inquiry, as, in HER words; "she didn't want to hurt the church" ? Anyhow, it's not really a case of her being fair and impartial; it's a case of the APPEARANCE of being fair and impartial, and in my and many others minds, her being part of the very establishment she is charged with investigating there will allways be doubt about her impartiality. No,those are not her words,they are the words that are being attributed to her,see the difference? Well I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. For me her closeness to the people who may or may not be involved is far to close, in the case of her brother, her fellow judges and her fellow Lords. We've seen cover ups in the past and this investigation seems to have got off on the wrong foot from the start, it's not just the conspiricy theorists, but respected MP's and retired politicians also who seem to have no faith in Baroness Butler-Schloss. Link to post Share on other sites
darren_nash 85 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 vanessa feltz groped by rolf harris...."it was the most stomach churning, disgusting ,shameful, embarrasing moment of my Link to post Share on other sites
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steve66 3,304 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Rolf should have gone to spec savers Did he grope her or was he just trying to get past 1 Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 In my opinion this enquiry should be headed by somebody that has absolutely no links to the government or House of Lords and should be in touch with current issues on child protection ... Somebody like the head of barnardos for example .... However what I can't understand is that if they have people that have come forward and named people as their a users why are the police not called in and the appropriate action taken ??? Why has there got to be an enquiry ??? ........... 5 Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 And just look who is to head the government "inquiry" ; the eminent ex High Court Judge Baroness Butler-Schloss !! Some one from the highest echelons of the establishment who will lead an inquiry into the...... errr...... establishment !!!!! How many buckets of white wash will be needed for this one ????Should have picked the local butcher don't you think? No, not the local butcher, but maybe someone not so entrenched in the establishment and with family and professional connections. We have a foreigner as the head of the Bank of England , both the Tories and Labour have foreign senior advisors , perhaps some one from abroad, American, Australian, or someone else with a knowledge of the English language and culture, who hasn't been corrupted by the establishment and who would be truly independent . I have no confidence in Butler-Schloss, she is to close to the people she is investigating. You may think it will be fair....... I and many others think it will simply be another white wash. It's possible that with the mounting pressure on her Butler- Schloss will stand down. But at the present her reputation appears to be beyond reproach so you implying she has been "corrupted by the establishment" and that she would not be,"truly independent,"has at the present time no foundation . Like everyone else on here I hope the guilty parties are exposed and those still alive prosecuted and convicted. However, I find it highly distasteful ,not to say dangerous to smear some ones name without a shred of evidence or proof. I would feel the same if someone made similarly detrimental remarks about yourself or anyone else on here if they weren't accompanied by any proof or evidence. There have been some ridiculous statements made on this thread ,the most vociferous by those that cannot even spell the word paedo. A dead man who cannot defend himself has had his name bandied about on here, and that is just WRONG. Whatever happened to"innocent until proven guilty"? Not so long ago man was burned to death for supposedly being a paedo. No proof has ever emerged that he was guilty . There is no place for a Kangaroo Court on a public forum imo. What about todays revelation that she left out a Bishops name in a previous peodophile inquiry, as, in HER words; "she didn't want to hurt the church" ? Anyhow, it's not really a case of her being fair and impartial; it's a case of the APPEARANCE of being fair and impartial, and in my and many others minds, her being part of the very establishment she is charged with investigating there will allways be doubt about her impartiality. No,those are not her words,they are the words that are being attributed to her,see the difference? Well I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. For me her closeness to the people who may or may not be involved is far to close, in the case of her brother, her fellow judges and her fellow Lords. We've seen cover ups in the past and this investigation seems to have got off on the wrong foot from the start, it's not just the conspiricy theorists, but respected MP's and retired politicians also who seem to have no faith in Baroness Butler-Schloss. I don't disagree it might be better for her to stand down, my problem was the inference that she was already corrupted by the system .I think those MP's objecting to her appointment are for the most part Labour MP's and as such are making political capital out of the situation ,pretty shameful really, especially as they declined to investigate Cyril Smith when they were in office because they needed the Lib Dem support. Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Rolf should have gone to spec savers Did he grope her or was he just trying to get past He was trying to fit a gastric band."Can you tell if I'm there yet?" Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 In my opinion this enquiry should be headed by somebody that has absolutely no links to the government or House of Lords and should be in touch with current issues on child protection ... Somebody like the head of barnardos for example .... However what I can't understand is that if they have people that have come forward and named people as their a users why are the police not called in and the appropriate action taken ??? Why has there got to be an enquiry ??? ........... That's a possibility if they can be proven to be impartial and have the neccessary experience in such matters. Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 In my opinion this enquiry should be headed by somebody that has absolutely no links to the government or House of Lords and should be in touch with current issues on child protection ... Somebody like the head of barnardos for example .... However what I can't understand is that if they have people that have come forward and named people as their a users why are the police not called in and the appropriate action taken ??? Why has there got to be an enquiry ??? ........... That's a possibility if they can be proven to be impartial and have the neccessary experience in such matters. Somebody high up in an organisation that big surely MUST have the experience to run an enquiry ... Well I would at least hope so ... BUT I can't understand why it's an enquiry when its government officials being named and it would be the police arresting people if they were not government officials ......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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