crorider 174 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 maybe its just my fault somehow, but my big dog retrieves perfectly Quote Link to post
Top Lamper 2k10 169 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Just gunna wait lads cheers for comments though Quote Link to post
lurcherman 887 13,248 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Wheres mushroom when you need some good advice? Quote Link to post
jimmy1982 153 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) Hold her back for a months I use to get a stick with but of line and rabbits skin on and get her grabbing that moving it around getting her to chase and grab it but shes young give her chance to mature abit Its right what your sayin pal do that with all my pup at round four months old playing in garden with dummy on a line and get them chasing it and let them strike and get hold prase them. You see the pups come on from falling over there legs to cutting the dunny off and using there heads trying to box good to see um like and you can pick which pup stands out at a young age. Edited July 3, 2014 by jimmy1982 Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yep ferreting as been said for a while /then double her up with another dog until she clicks atb with herI don't think doubling up 3/4 times would make much of a difference ?? We've all done it Not all, can see more negatives than positives when doubling a young dog up so have never done it. 1 Quote Link to post
haymin 2,465 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yep ferreting as been said for a while /then double her up with another dog until she clicks atb with herI don't think doubling up 3/4 times would make much of a difference ?? We've all done it Not all, can see more negatives than positives when doubling a young dog up so have never done it. appreciate your honesty tote , your right enough I guess thinking about it , the you g bitch had turned out fine though luckily enough ??atb Jim Quote Link to post
nomoon 542 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Am just gunna leave her few months n try again artic hit the nail on the head,mine are from the same litter and are just big daft pups at the moment,ile be giving them picked slips in the autumn,but looking more to next year for the bigger stuff ,theres no rush,one mistake lasts a long time belive me,slowly slowly,atb mc 3 Quote Link to post
shealy1 71 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Grounds hard as concrete man sack that Quote Link to post
Richard Warwick 50 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 if you double up one dog is turning the rabbit, the other is catching the rabbit, for a young dog this can give loads of bad habbits, not just hard mouth but running in the beam. i wouldn't double up on any quarry 2 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,678 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Tie a live rat to her leg Edited July 4, 2014 by low plains drifter 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,968 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Tie a live rat to her leg Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Firstly, a pup of nearly 9 months is just that: a pup. Young dogs, especially males, don't get their full coordination and speed until they are at least a year old, especially those which are larger, with longer legs etc. Muscle isn't fully developed at 9 months old, therefore the ability to turn at speed is also an issue. Secondly, from what I gather your pup has been bred for long runs, so more for stamina than just pure speed. Long, slow twitch muscles which mature later than fast twitch muscles for explosive speed. Saluki lurchers are often very slow to develop mentally as well. and whilst your pup is trying its best to catch, the whole bundle is not yet mature enough to reach down and catch on what is probably dry hard ground and a fast moving target. It's breeding may also affect how it relates to prey. Another thing about some Saluki types is that they evolved to run their prey into the ground over a considerable distance rather than snatching it up at the first opportunity. Confidence also plays a big role when a pup first runs live game and even if you have dragged a dried rabbit skin round your garden on a piece of line to teach it how to pick up moving objects, faced with the real thing lack of experience and lack of confidence can affect the pup. Some pups also have to 'learn' to strike. Some do it naturally, others need a lot of practice, and in the heat of summer on hard ground is not the best time to do this, unless you can find myxie rabbits. Take all these things into consideration, as well as the age of the pup. I've held back from lamping a very promising pup in the past until she was 14 months old, knowing that she wasn't quite ready. At 14 months she caught her first 3 rabbits on the trot with no problems at all. I'm sure she'd have fumbled, missed and got generally over excited if I'd entered her earlier. 7 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,885 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Firstly, a pup of nearly 9 months is just that: a pup. Young dogs, especially males, don't get their full coordination and speed until they are at least a year old, especially those which are larger, with longer legs etc. Muscle isn't fully developed at 9 months old, therefore the ability to turn at speed is also an issue. Secondly, from what I gather your pup has been bred for long runs, so more for stamina than just pure speed. Long, slow twitch muscles which mature later than fast twitch muscles for explosive speed. Saluki lurchers are often very slow to develop mentally as well. and whilst your pup is trying its best to catch, the whole bundle is not yet mature enough to reach down and catch on what is probably dry hard ground and a fast moving target. It's breeding may also affect how it relates to prey. Another thing about some Saluki types is that they evolved to run their prey into the ground over a considerable distance rather than snatching it up at the first opportunity. Confidence also plays a big role when a pup first runs live game and even if you have dragged a dried rabbit skin round your garden on a piece of line to teach it how to pick up moving objects, faced with the real thing lack of experience and lack of confidence can affect the pup. Some pups also have to 'learn' to strike. Some do it naturally, others need a lot of practice, and in the heat of summer on hard ground is not the best time to do this, unless you can find myxie rabbits. Take all these things into consideration, as well as the age of the pup. I've held back from lamping a very promising pup in the past until she was 14 months old, knowing that she wasn't quite ready. At 14 months she caught her first 3 rabbits on the trot with no problems at all. I'm sure she'd have fumbled, missed and got generally over excited if I'd entered her earlier. Best post I've read for a long time 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 You have a young saluki chances are at the minute it will be all legs and ears,most develop at a slower rate than the lurcher x salukis so give it all the time it needs , many a good dog is ruined putting it under the cosh before its physically and mentally ready.You do get exceptions in salukis that are ducks to water and will chase and kill at very young age but it is stll fools gold to make a regular habit out of it until the muscular and skeletal system are fully knitted . A well bred saluki brought along at the correct pace will run and catch game at 8/9/10 years old as they mature and get older the pacey ones adjust the running style and put the wind and craft they have learnt over the years into the job and run on well. Just take your time let the young dog grow into itself do the basic work bonding, recall and bring it to condition and it will give you years of faithfull service atb. 4 Quote Link to post
Top Lamper 2k10 169 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Cheets for comments lads as I said im just gunna leave her in for a few months Quote Link to post
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