oneredtrim 148 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2014/watch-moment-england-fan-ear-3783017 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyMc 143 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Fcuk me redtrim,that's diabolical,I'm into the gaa,if that happened at a game our side the biter would have been battered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyMc 143 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Senseless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,325 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Brainless fcukin animal! A lot of the England team are black so if he has such an issue with black Englishmen what was he doing in Brazil in the first place? Hopefully the media'll find out who he is and go to town on him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2014/watch-moment-england-fan-ear-3783017 Zzzzzzzz............things like that used to happen all the time when I was a kid of 20 odd, folk crack on like its a big deal and something new!! ORT, The Daily Mirror, seriously mate??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 must been slobbering now he playing the victim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Brainless fcukin animal! A lot of the England team are black so if he has such an issue with black Englishmen what was he doing in Brazil in the first place? Hopefully the media'll find out who he is and go to town on him. There is no such thing as a black Englishman, English is an ethnic identity, black British yes, but English NOOO, no trying to ridicule you Pesky, just pointing out a fact mate. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 English is a national identity not an ethnic identity. No it is not, the English are an ethnic group, I have no idea what you consider yourself to be, and quite frankly I dont care, I am not trying to start an argument here or in any way hijack the post, but my friend, the English are descendants of the Germanic peoples that settled here after the Romans left in 410ad the Angles (as in east Anglia) the Saxons, jutes, etc, just as the Welsh for instance are descendants of the Britons (Celts) if you are at all iterested I can point you towards some good reading that will explain things in detail, rather than my rather (for brevities sake) short explanation, interestingly one of the few forms that include the option to note your ethnic identity as Englisn rather than the usual British clap trap, is the questionaire that accompanies the new firearms forms. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,325 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Brainless fcukin animal! A lot of the England team are black so if he has such an issue with black Englishmen what was he doing in Brazil in the first place? Hopefully the media'll find out who he is and go to town on him. There is no such thing as a black Englishman, English is an ethnic identity, black British yes, but English NOOO, no trying to ridicule you Pesky, just pointing out a fact mate. They say every day's a school day and I'll happily stand corrected if you can tell me that Sturridge, Sterling, Wellbeck et al (& Rooney & Gerrard as I'd guess both are of Irish descent) are eligible to play for Scotland by virtue of the fact they are British. If not then I'm afraid that makes them English. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyH 52 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 There is no such thing as a black Englishman, English is an ethnic identity, black British yes, but English NOOO, no trying to ridicule you Pesky, just pointing out a fact mate. Go tell that to all the black lads serving in the armed forces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Brainless fcukin animal! A lot of the England team are black so if he has such an issue with black Englishmen what was he doing in Brazil in the first place? Hopefully the media'll find out who he is and go to town on him. There is no such thing as a black Englishman, English is an ethnic identity, black British yes, but English NOOO, no trying to ridicule you Pesky, just pointing out a fact mate. Absolutely I am British and my ethnic group is English very different to the lad in the local petrol station who is British but his ethnic group is Pakistani or the guy in or local takeaway who is British but his ethnic group is Indian, Being born in England does not automatically make you English just like a dog born in a stable it is not a horse. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsteve9999 456 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 English is a national identity not an ethnic identity. No it is not, the English are an ethnic group, I have no idea what you consider yourself to be, and quite frankly I dont care, I am not trying to start an argument here or in any way hijack the post, but my friend, the English are descendants of the Germanic peoples that settled here after the Romans left in 410ad the Angles (as in east Anglia) the Saxons, jutes, etc, just as the Welsh for instance are descendants of the Britons (Celts) if you are at all iterested I can point you towards some good reading that will explain things in detail, rather than my rather (for brevities sake) short explanation, interestingly one of the few forms that include the option to note your ethnic identity as Englisn rather than the usual British clap trap, is the questionaire that accompanies the new firearms forms. I doubt if you tested any Englishmans genes he would only have the makeup you describe. Off the top of my head I can think of the Romans Vikings, Flemish and Normans who have all added to our gene pool over the years Surely the English are anyone whos descendants are born here and who feel that England is their mother country.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 There is no such thing as a black Englishman, English is an ethnic identity, black British yes, but English NOOO, no trying to ridicule you Pesky, just pointing out a fact mate. Go tell that to all the black lads serving in the armed forces. If you knew CC as I do you would realise this statement couldn't be further from the truth, he is a die hard supporter of our armed forces past and present regardless of the colour of their skin. I may not always see eye to eye with him as he's a pagan heathen but don't jump to conclusions on what he's saying ATB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Thankyou Gentelmen, Black lads serving in our armed forces are serving with the BRITISH army, their ethnicity, is afro caribbean that means they are of African decent, British they may be, born in England they may be but they are not English, and never will be, as Danw says a dog born in a stable is not a horse, tsteve999 you mention the Romans, vikings Normans etc and you make a valid point, however, the Romans interbred with the Britons, creating a largely Romano/celtic hierarchy, that was largely displaced by the incoming GERMANIC peoples that would eventually become known as the English, or Englisc in old language, the vikings stem from the same gothic Germanic tribes that populated northern Europe, the Normans (the "Northmen") are descended from vikings that settled in Normandy, under the leadership of king Rollo in the early 10th century, the flemish again being of Germanic descent, so you see that all the various tribes if you like,are branches of the same tree, that tree being the Gothic Germanic tribes, Pesky if you think that being eligible to play for a football team, denotes a persons English identity, then that genuinely saddens me, the brainwashing that the liberal elites have being forcing upon us, especially post ww2 , and continues today has clearly had an effect on some, the whole plan was and is to deride English as an ethnic identity at every step, while the Scots and Welsh are positively encouraged to embrace and celebrate their ethnicity/identity, to say that you are English in some circles, nowadays seems to instantly brand you as a racist/fascist, well if being proud of my people, ancestory, and proud heritage makes me a racist then so be it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsteve9999 456 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Thankyou Gentelmen, Black lads serving in our armed forces are serving with the BRITISH army, their ethnicity, is afro caribbean that means they are of African decent, British they may be, born in England they may be but they are not English, and never will be, as Danw says a dog born in a stable is not a horse, tsteve999 you mention the Romans, vikings Normans etc and you make a valid point, however, the Romans interbred with the Britons, creating a largely Romano/celtic hierarchy, that was largely displaced by the incoming GERMANIC peoples that would eventually become known as the English, or Englisc in old language, the vikings stem from the same gothic Germanic tribes that populated northern Europe, the Normans (the "Northmen") are descended from vikings that settled in Normandy, under the leadership of king Rollo in the early 10th century, the flemish again being of Germanic descent, so you see that all the various tribes if you like,are branches of the same tree, that tree being the Gothic Germanic tribes, Pesky if you think that being eligible to play for a football team, denotes a persons English identity, then that genuinely saddens me, the brainwashing that the liberal elites have being forcing upon us, especially post ww2 , and continues today has clearly had an effect on some, the whole plan was and is to deride English as an ethnic identity at every step, while the Scots and Welsh are positively encouraged to embrace and celebrate their ethnicity/identity, to say that you are English in some circles, nowadays seems to instantly brand you as a racist/fascist, well if being proud of my people, ancestory, and proud heritage makes me a racist then so be it. Sorry mate but if the Romans bred with the Britons, who bred with the Vikings, who bred with the Normans etc etc that makes them mongrels, it's the fact that they lived in England that made them English. Imo it's the country that forges a people into what they are. America is a perfect example, made up of every race on earth but 99.9% will say they are Americans and proud of it. They may say they are afro-american or latin-american but they are all american. The problem we have today is that people are coming from other countries so quickly and in such big numbers that they don't have to mingle and interbreed with the native English, resulting in enclaves of essentially foreigners everywhere, that have no wish or intention of becoming English. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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