Bosun11 537 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Never mind knowing them, are there five great lurchermen in existence..?? Too many variables IMO to call that one, though I do like the question. Lurchers are used in a multitude of ways, on differing land, on a multitude of quarry species... How do you call that??? Though, for me, as much as I know plenty of lads who I admire, that keep and work just the one type, which suits them. I'm sure they would be honest enough to change if need be. The desire to hunt effectively and efficiently should always outweigh kennel blindness. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Surely there is no such thing as the 'best lurcher men' just as there is no such thing as the 'best cross'. Different people have different ideas of what the best thing is, because its the best thing for them, as do they have different opinions of what makes a good dog man. I'm sure there are men that some folk would think great, that others would think a bell end. Same as dogs, i've seen dogs that have been really rated, that I wouldn't have any use for, and wouldn't kennel, usually because they lacked abilities in the areas that I deemed important. And by the same token, a lot of folk wouldn't rate my dogs at all, because they wouldn't suit what they do. Maybe the mythical all round lurcher man exists, like the mythical all round lurcher, but I don't think so. I've met some real good lampers who couldn't ferret to save their lives, and in the day couldn't read the land, the game and the dogs particularly well, yet give them a lamp, their dog and enough game to go at, and they will do very well. By the same token, i'm sure some very good coursing lads, may not be the best on the dazzler etc. 3 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,789 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Surely there is no such thing as the 'best lurcher men' just as there is no such thing as the 'best cross'. Different people have different ideas of what the best thing is, because its the best thing for them, as do they have different opinions of what makes a good dog man. I'm sure there are men that some folk would think great, that others would think a bell end. Same as dogs, i've seen dogs that have been really rated, that I wouldn't have any use for, and wouldn't kennel, usually because they lacked abilities in the areas that I deemed important. And by the same token, a lot of folk wouldn't rate my dogs at all, because they wouldn't suit what they do. Maybe the mythical all round lurcher man exists, like the mythical all round lurcher, but I don't think so. I've met some real good lampers who couldn't ferret to save their lives, and in the day couldn't read the land, the game and the dogs particularly well, yet give them a lamp, their dog and enough game to go at, and they will do very well. By the same token, i'm sure some very good coursing lads, may not be the best on the dazzler etc. Good post, like you say, you could probably pick out maybe 5 or 6 dogs that were all really good at a couple of things and average with everything else. The example I gave was based on mainly lamp dogs, but they were both good daytime hare dogs too. But they were never bought with ferreting in mind, or much else besides lamping anyway. Bit of an impossible question to answer really Quote Link to post
ivebeen 176 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Well Dan, I run Whippets of course Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,527 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 To make a all round lurcher you would have to live somewhere with a lot of different quarry in plenty of numbers for the dog to master all the trades dont get me wrong I bet there is dogs out there that can do it all and I bet a bottom dollar those dogs are not mentioned on here !! Myself my blue bitch suits me she lamps ferrets and hunts the hill with my young dog following her foots steps are they world beaters no they are not but do they keep me happy feck yeaaa I love being out with them would they suit someone else probably not every man has different needs for a dog no dog will suit everyone 1 Quote Link to post
j1985 1,984 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Is there such thing as a great Lurcher man, what makes one man better than the other! Does getting out 7 nights a week make you great ? That same man could treat his dogs like shit, never catch a f***ing thing, have shit dogs, have unfit dogs, be unfit himself!! Way too many variables...... Now I know a few lads that are dedicated (mainly youngens) who are out non stop, catch f***ing loads, have dogs in top condition all year round but as they're young 90% of people who hear about their work dismiss it....makes me laugh!!! On the other hand, I'm f***ing awesome and I keep a 1/4 bull 1/4 whip 1/2 grey ?? Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 a decent dog man can get the best from any given some are naturals .atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,789 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 a decent dog man can get the best from any given some are naturals .atb bunnys. Don't agree with that. I believe that to get the best out of a dog you've got to actually like the breeds, and the qualities they have and give, that make up the type of lurcher that you work. As an example, the second lurcher I owned, about 30 years ago had a small amount of saluki on both sides, but she ended up with all of the undesirable traits of a saluki, not saying all salukis are are bad, and I couldn't get on with her at all, and it's coloured my judgement of saluki bred dogs ever since, and I know I couldn't get the best out of one. Some types of lurcher suit your own character, and you'll always get more out of that type of dog Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,527 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 a decent dog man can get the best from any given some are naturals .atb bunnys. Don't agree with that. I believe that to get the best out of a dog you've got to actually like the breeds, and the qualities they have and give, that make up the type of lurcher that you work. As an example, the second lurcher I owned, about 30 years ago had a small amount of saluki on both sides, but she ended up with all of the undesirable traits of a saluki, not saying all salukis are are bad, and I couldn't get on with her at all, and it's coloured my judgement of saluki bred dogs ever since, and I know I couldn't get the best out of one.Some types of lurcher suit your own character, and you'll always get more out of that type of dog your right there mate I get one with beddyxs they just suit me I love there drive Quote Link to post
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