1St Gen Bull X

[Chid 6,551]

I never said first cross....I said pye stuff mate...

but the op asked about first cross's

[alan81 110]

first cross bull/hound is a pit bull x greyhound. you mentioned the staffy I would never cross a staffy with a greyhound. true gameness and stamina has been bred out of the staffy plus most of them have breathing problems.

[brad88 133]

what line of bull was used in these pye dogs?

[blackmaggie 3,376]

ed reid i think scotchmans max to a bitch called maggie

[bird 9,941]

first cross bull/hound is a pit bull x greyhound. you mentioned the staffy I would never cross a staffy with a greyhound. true gameness and stamina has been bred out of the staffy plus most of them have breathing problems.

 

not all of them mate, there's few good lines now in the black country (west midlands) , that kept to the old type staff lines some up to 19in 50lb, that were sent over to the states that were used to make apbt . But you are right a lot of staffs are bred for the show ring today, and very unhealthy have HD etc , even few pits are getting HD and other health probs , they breed for size and get more unhealthy dog, the best pits were never over big dogs, get the odd few, but most were not that big .

[brad88 133]

thanks black maggie atb brad

[General lee 979]

The best bullcross I ever see was a EBT x greyhound well built fast good feet and would tackle anything no reverse gear

[j1985 1,984]

I just spent £90,000 cloning Pye over in Korea, will have pups any days now from a pomeranian surrogate mother and will be chopping off all their tails for authenticity!! Only asking £25,000 a pup just to cover costs etc...inbox me if you're interested!

[Richard Warwick 50]

I just spent £90,000 cloning Pye over in Korea, will have pups any days now from a pomeranian surrogate mother and will be chopping off all their tails for authenticity!! Only asking £25,000 a pup just to cover costs etc...inbox me if you're interested!

 

is £15,000 any good?

[squab 2,875]

I just spent £90,000 cloning Pye over in Korea, will have pups any days now from a pomeranian surrogate mother and will be chopping off all their tails for authenticity!! Only asking £25,000 a pup just to cover costs etc...inbox me if you're interested!

pm sent

[j1985 1,984]

 

 

I just spent £90,000 cloning Pye over in Korea, will have pups any days now from a pomeranian surrogate mother and will be chopping off all their tails for authenticity!! Only asking £25,000 a pup just to cover costs etc...inbox me if you're interested!

is £15,000 any good?

Listen if you want second rate shit then that price would be fine, but these are the real deal mate!!! £25,000 is a fair price considering the amount of time and effort the mrs will be spending cleaning up all their shit while I'm down the pub!! Lol

[alan81 110]

I had a few working bred staff's a few years ago and know more that friends had. these dogs were in the 18" to 21" range and worked hard but everyone of them had breathing problems, some bad and some not so bad but for that fact alone I would not cross a breed with breathing problems to try create a running dog. imo it totally defeats the purpose of a running dog.

[mushroom 13,103]

first cross bull/hound is a pit bull x greyhound. you mentioned the staffy I would never cross a staffy with a greyhound. true gameness and stamina has been bred out of the staffy plus most of them have breathing problems.

Absolute crap you just have to know where to look

[alan81 110]

you can look where you like iv been around working dogs all my life and iv yet to see a staffy with the stamina of a good pit bull. iv seen some with every bit as much drive but none of them matched up stamina wise due to there bad breathing.

[mushroom 13,103]

Flmao you been around working dogs all ya days you say?? You wanna start learning to pick a decent pup from decent parents lol full of crap I have a staff (well technically the mam has her) will do a full days proper graft over all types of terrain use her nose and put up whatever she scents plus all the other shiite I trained her to do which several members have witnessed.