Ferret Pts

[RossM 8,119]

 

Normally if a ferret is ill and fading, I'll do the deed and put it out of its misery. A hob I have has been looking really lethargic and listless, so I tried him on a few things to pick him up, and he did get a little better, over a couple of days, but after getting an ear ache of the other half ended up taking him to the vets to get a look over, they said he wouldn't last, and I could either give him antibiotics, anti inflams and x-ray , although I was told it was pointless, so it was suggested to get him PTS. anyway as I say, I normally sort this myself, but wanted to keep the peace and so I agreed, just do it.

 

Never again , first time I've seen a small animal put to sleep at a vets, I didn't realise they injected them in the stomach, it took about 3 minutes to die, which he did eventually, but I just wanted it to be done quickly, they do hamsters and other small animals the same.... anyway, like I say never again, to me it was cruel to watch.. To others a quick blow to the head by gun or whatever means, may seem cruel, but I'd rather it be humane and be over as quickly as possible..

 

iv just took a friends staff x to the pdsa to be pts as it was suffering,basically it was on its way out,they gave it an injection in its leg while i held it and the 3 family members watching sobbing their hearts out,i was choked myself but in no way did that dog take 3 mins to die and just looked like it was fast asleep on the table in seconds

It's hard not to get caught up in the moment,

[Tiercel 6,986]

iv just took a friends staff x to the pdsa to be pts as it was suffering,basically it was on its way out,they gave it an injection in its leg while i held it and the 3 family members watching sobbing their hearts out,i was choked myself but in no way did that dog take 3 mins to die and just looked like it was fast asleep on the table in seconds

 

That is the first effects of the anaesthetic, it renders the animal unconscious, but the animal is still alive. Depending on the size of the animal death from a heart attack actually occurs from between one and three minutes after the animal is injected. As the animal is unconscious it knows nothing about it.

 

TC

[pip1968 2,490]

 

iv just took a friends staff x to the pdsa to be pts as it was suffering,basically it was on its way out,they gave it an injection in its leg while i held it and the 3 family members watching sobbing their hearts out,i was choked myself but in no way did that dog take 3 mins to die and just looked like it was fast asleep on the table in seconds

 

That is the first effects of the anaesthetic, it renders the animal unconscious, but the animal is still alive. Depending on the size of the animal death from a heart attack actually occurs from between one and three minutes after the animal is injected. As the animal is unconscious it knows nothing about it.

 

TC

 

after she injected the dog she then listened to the dogs heart and told us it had stopped it was no way 3 mins and and the dog just letting out little breaths of air but was dead and she told us this would happen

[TOM HEAVY 140]

having just got my kits, i dunno if i cud shoot 1 in the head with a rifle, especially if it has brought me good sport and memories, however i most certainly won't be taking it to a vet to be put too sleep like that!!

 

i will have to call my mate me thinks...god hope that stay well for a fair few years yet!!

 

ATB

 

Tom Heavy

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

 

iv just took a friends staff x to the pdsa to be pts as it was suffering,basically it was on its way out,they gave it an injection in its leg while i held it and the 3 family members watching sobbing their hearts out,i was choked myself but in no way did that dog take 3 mins to die and just looked like it was fast asleep on the table in seconds

 

That is the first effects of the anaesthetic, it renders the animal unconscious, but the animal is still alive. Depending on the size of the animal death from a heart attack actually occurs from between one and three minutes after the animal is injected. As the animal is unconscious it knows nothing about it.

 

TC

 

after she injected the dog she then listened to the dogs heart and told us it had stopped it was no way 3 mins and and the dog just letting out little breaths of air but was dead and she told us this would happen

 

As stated depending on the size of the animal it will take between one and three minutes. As a bye I get to take a few dogs for people on their last trip and it does vary The last one I took was my old terrier and he only took about a minute but he was over 14. I suppose it depends how strong their heart is and how old they are.

 

TC

[IanB 0]

 

 

iv just took a friends staff x to the pdsa to be pts as it was suffering,basically it was on its way out,they gave it an injection in its leg while i held it and the 3 family members watching sobbing their hearts out,i was choked myself but in no way did that dog take 3 mins to die and just looked like it was fast asleep on the table in seconds

 

That is the first effects of the anaesthetic, it renders the animal unconscious, but the animal is still alive. Depending on the size of the animal death from a heart attack actually occurs from between one and three minutes after the animal is injected. As the animal is unconscious it knows nothing about it.

 

TC

 

after she injected the dog she then listened to the dogs heart and told us it had stopped it was no way 3 mins and and the dog just letting out little breaths of air but was dead and she told us this would happen

 

Read the topic from the start, this was injected in the stomach thats why it took 3 minutes, dogs are injected straight in a vein.

[Tiercel 6,986]

I have read it from the start, I was merely stating that even with an injection into a vein it can take an animal up to three minutes to expire.

 

TC

 

Edited June 26, 2014 by tiercel

[pip1968 2,490]

 

I have read it from the start, I was merely stating that even with an injection into a vein it can take an animal up to three minutes to expire.

 

TC

 

 

 

NO tiercel read it properly

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

 

I have read it from the start, I was merely stating that even with an injection into a vein it can take an animal up to three minutes to expire.

 

TC

 

 

 

NO tiercel read it properly

 

I have, brown nosing again pip?

 

TC

[pip1968 2,490]

 

 

 

I have read it from the start, I was merely stating that even with an injection into a vein it can take an animal up to three minutes to expire.

 

TC

 

 

 

NO tiercel read it properly

 

I have, brown nosing again pip?

 

TC

 

ok creepy

[IanB 0]

Tiercel it was directed at pip, not yourself, as I say it was a ferret not a dog and not an injection in a vein..

[Tiercel 6,986]

Tiercel it was directed at pip, not yourself, as I say it was a ferret not a dog and not an injection in a vein..

I had never heard of the injection in the stomach till you posted about it here. So I did some research, when they inject into the body cavity the object is to inject either the liver, heart, or kidneys. In some sates in the US they have to anaesthetise the animal and the animal has to be unconscious before they inject the animal in the body cavity. From what I read it can take up to 15 minutes for the animal to die.

 

TC

[IanB 0]

 

Tiercel it was directed at pip, not yourself, as I say it was a ferret not a dog and not an injection in a vein..

 

I had never heard of the injection in the stomach till you posted about it here. So I did some research, when they inject into the body cavity the object is to inject either the liver, heart, or kidneys. In some sates in the US they have to anaesthetise the animal and the animal has to be unconscious before they inject the animal in the body cavity. From what I read it can take up to 15 minutes for the animal to die.

 

TC

Exactly mate, cruelty in my mind, far from humane.

[Tiercel 6,986]

It is my understanding that even with a normal injection into a vein the animals passes out first, then it takes approx 3 minutes before the heart attack actually kills it?

 

While it may not seem as quick a death by the injection to the stomach, as the animal seems to be concious longer, is the animal actually feeling any pain? If it is not then I would say that there is no harm done. However, if it is in pain then to my mind it is not an acceptable practice.

 

TC

Since I made that post I have researched the body cavity injection. To my mind it is not an acceptable practice for euthanasia, unless the animal is anaesthetised first. If the animal is rendered unconscious then is injected in the one of the vital blood carrying organs, I do not have a problem with it.

 

I do not believe that you can push a needle through an animals organs without causing that animal pain, as in the heart injection from the body cavity, it would have to travel though the diaphragm and the pericardia to get to the heart. Although I have no proof that the animal would feel it as pain I would rather not take the chance.

 

TC