IanB 0 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Normally if a ferret is ill and fading, I'll do the deed and put it out of its misery. A hob I have has been looking really lethargic and listless, so I tried him on a few things to pick him up, and he did get a little better, over a couple of days, but after getting an ear ache of the other half ended up taking him to the vets to get a look over, they said he wouldn't last, and I could either give him antibiotics, anti inflams and x-ray , although I was told it was pointless, so it was suggested to get him PTS. anyway as I say, I normally sort this myself, but wanted to keep the peace and so I agreed, just do it. Never again , first time I've seen a small animal put to sleep at a vets, I didn't realise they injected them in the stomach, it took about 3 minutes to die, which he did eventually, but I just wanted it to be done quickly, they do hamsters and other small animals the same.... anyway, like I say never again, to me it was cruel to watch.. To others a quick blow to the head by gun or whatever means, may seem cruel, but I'd rather it be humane and be over as quickly as possible.. Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 didn't know they did it like this surely it carnt be right a slow death to watch as you say Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Some vets do dogs into the stomach as well. It's mainly because it's easier for them because they don't have to bother finding a vein. Like you Ian, I generally do the ferrets myself when the time comes. My Mrs is as daft as a brush though, and insists on rushing them off to the vet if there is anything wrong with them. My experience is that if they are bad enough to need the vet, they rarely recover anyway. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the veterinary profession has turned into a licence to print money. I took Florence to the vet last week because she needed a stitch after a barbed wire related incident, what should have been a simple case of a bit of local and two stitches turned into sedation, 8 stitches and four hours of time. To add insult to injury, they even tried to con me into having a lampshade for her. If they'd bothered to actually think about it, the location of the wound made it impossible for her to get at it anyway. £ and four hours of time for what should have been a half hour £30 job. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Some vets do dogs into the stomach as well. It's mainly because it's easier for them because they don't have to bother finding a vein. Like you Ian, I generally do the ferrets myself when the time comes. My Mrs is as daft as a brush though, and insists on rushing them off to the vet if there is anything wrong with them. My experience is that if they are bad enough to need the vet, they rarely recover anyway. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the veterinary profession has turned into a licence to print money. I took Florence to the vet last week because she needed a stitch after a barbed wire related incident, what should have been a simple case of a bit of local and two stitches turned into sedation, 8 stitches and four hours of time. To add insult to injury, they even tried to con me into having a lampshade for her. If they'd bothered to actually think about it, the location of the wound made it impossible for her to get at it anyway. £ and four hours of time for what should have been a half hour £30 job. Yes its more about £ than common sense it seems, but there is some good vets left, most of the townie type vets just fleece people. I asked about why inject in the gut and she said they do as its easier than finding a vein like a dog, it just takes longer to work through its system, 2-3 mins she said, then she said sometimes it takes a few shots to finish them... As I say never again, I've never taken a small animal to a vets, she kept saying you can leave if you want, but I waited till the end, three minutes, falling on his side, dragging his legs after a jab into the gut, then slowly dies on his side....I was thinking, surely this is not humane.. , won't happen again in the future. Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 It's messed up how society has warped our sense of humanity to the point where something like that is deemed acceptable by the majority. As most will know an air rifle or 22 rim is instant and leaves the little critter's corpse in a clean respectful state, yet society seems to look on it as barbaric...... hmmmm, right'o, I know where my conscience is on the subject. Good to highlight it Ian, too many think it's a peaceful end. 4 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Had a very similar experience couple of summers ago with a Jill and a litter of kits. It broke my heart to be honest watching one of my prized workers being left to such an undignified death. Never again. . . I know the signs to look for and when there's no other option I will do my friends the honor of saying goodbye properly and with respect. Quote Link to post
The one 8,467 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I got a litter of kits put down years ago they where crawling about like little seals and thats what they did charged a £1 a kit at the time i thought i would of been better and quicker doing it myself , But i thought they injected them threw there diaphram ?. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Sounds like a horrible and protracted death for an animal, even if it is 'small'. Don't know how a vet, who is trained to alleviate suffering, can bear to see that kind of thing: dare say they do pet rabbits and guinea pigs etc in the same way. I couldn't stand to see any animal struggling to walk, breathe, fighting for its life without knowing what is happening to it, let alone a ferret, an animal which I consider in a similar way to my dogs; not a prey animal, but a little predator, one of us, so to speak. Thanks for flagging that up Ian. A tap on the head is way kinder and instant. Sh*t, we dispatch rabbits fast and humanely in the field: it's surely a f*cked up world when vets (the life savers) inflict more suffering that true hunters who kill every day and do it mercifully fast. 5 Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 That sounds like a poor Vet tbh I once had a ferret put down and the vet made the effort to locate the correct site for the jab and the ferret died instantly. I`ve had a few dogs pts and they always find the vein and I`ve found it a very quick and peacefull death for the animal. Quite frankly, if a vet jabbed a ferret of mine in the belly and it took 3 mins to die, the black eye would take 3 weeks to fade 7 Quote Link to post
RossM 8,119 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 BPR got a hob pts last season and it was pretty instantaneous, Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,784 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I once took a fading old jill to the vets to be examined and vet said PTS. I agreed and he did it, more or less instantaneous but next time, air gun to the head I'm afraid. He never charged me TBH but I would imagine 20/30 quid at least if he had. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 It is my understanding that even with a normal injection into a vein the animals passes out first, then it takes approx 3 minutes before the heart attack actually kills it? While it may not seem as quick a death by the injection to the stomach, as the animal seems to be concious longer, is the animal actually feeling any pain? If it is not then I would say that there is no harm done. However, if it is in pain then to my mind it is not an acceptable practice. TC 1 Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 BPR got a hob pts last season and it was pretty instantaneous, This wasn't quick and she was keen to have us out of the way whilst she did it but I stayed.. Takes longer to get round there system in the stomach she said, like I say never seen it done like it before, on any animal... I've had dogs put to sleep and its pretty quick and peaceful when injected in a vein. Quote Link to post
RossM 8,119 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 BPR got a hob pts last season and it was pretty instantaneous, This wasn't quick and she was keen to have us out of the way whilst she did it but I stayed.. Takes longer to get round there system in the stomach she said, like I say never seen it done like it before, on any animal... I've had dogs put to sleep and its pretty quick and peaceful when injected in a vein. Should've said this vet shaved the front leg and found a vein just like they would a dog.. Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Normally if a ferret is ill and fading, I'll do the deed and put it out of its misery. A hob I have has been looking really lethargic and listless, so I tried him on a few things to pick him up, and he did get a little better, over a couple of days, but after getting an ear ache of the other half ended up taking him to the vets to get a look over, they said he wouldn't last, and I could either give him antibiotics, anti inflams and x-ray , although I was told it was pointless, so it was suggested to get him PTS. anyway as I say, I normally sort this myself, but wanted to keep the peace and so I agreed, just do it. Never again , first time I've seen a small animal put to sleep at a vets, I didn't realise they injected them in the stomach, it took about 3 minutes to die, which he did eventually, but I just wanted it to be done quickly, they do hamsters and other small animals the same.... anyway, like I say never again, to me it was cruel to watch.. To others a quick blow to the head by gun or whatever means, may seem cruel, but I'd rather it be humane and be over as quickly as possible.. iv just took a friends staff x to the pdsa to be pts as it was suffering,basically it was on its way out,they gave it an injection in its leg while i held it and the 3 family members watching sobbing their hearts out,i was choked myself but in no way did that dog take 3 mins to die and just looked like it was fast asleep on the table in seconds Quote Link to post
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