norseman 424 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 didn't read it yet woodsmanjim (putting the wayne to bed) but I will I wouldn't believe 100% of what I read anywhere though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norseman 424 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 interesting read, unfortunately I've seen the effects of my fathers family members who were sent to Nazareth house as kids, not good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,875 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 the majority of the irish government are up in arms,theres a full scale investigation under way on the matter,theres dozens and dozens of men and women airing their stories about THEIR mothers that were in these different institutions and the top lawyers are preparing to get stuck in to the situation,then the catholic church members have promised to hand over any and all details of the incarcerated in their care and you think its all blown out of proportion..................it'd be great if you were right woodsman,but I reckon your not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I hate religion. I was brought up catholic. But my aunt is a nun, and she has done nothing but good, all her life. The ones I have known could not be nicer people and devote there life to looking after the elderly that no one else will take. I`m just sick she never left and went into commerce, she`d be a millionare by now with her brains. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WoodsmanJim 160 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Don't get me wrong, I'm not sticking my fingers in my ears and doing the "la la la it never happened" thing. I've no doubt that plenty of heinous acts have been committed by humans, in the name of religion for centuries, I'm not denying that one bit. I was just hoping to point out that, as Norseman says, you shouldn't believe everything you read without checking it. This story has generated a very emotive response, which if proved true would be appropriate, but we should always check before making huge statements, judgements or accusations. Like Rake says, there are some good ones out there. I'm only talking about this story by the way, no others. I'm not a Catholic btw. Edited June 12, 2014 by WoodsmanJim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,016 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) http://news.yahoo.com/ap-backtracks-claims-disparaging-catholic-church-223211375.html The Associated press backtracks on claims of abuse and neglect. The Associated Press landed a blockbuster story in early June that hundreds of children had died due to neglect in a Catholic-run orphanage in Ireland during the mid 20th century. Mass graves, unmarked burial sites, baptism refusals, and other lurid details put a severely negative light on the Irish Church and prompted several news outlets to carry the AP’s pieces on the developing story. However, the AP got some of their facts wrong and the new details casts doubt on the truthfulness of the original allegations. In a correction issued Friday, the AP admitted that claims that Catholic baptisms were refused to the children were not true. The AP’s pieces speculated that the children were refused baptism because they were the offspring of unwed mothers and even went so far as to claim that it was Church teaching at the time to not grant sacred rites to the children of single mothers. The AP also retracted that claim as false. The AP also claimed that the children’s bodies were stored in a septic tank before being disposed of in unmarked graves. The researcher behind that allegation clarified that she could not make a definite statement on that claim because she lacked sufficient forensic evidence to prove it. The news organization published two stories covering the case — one on June 3 and another on June 8. They were both written by reporter Shawn Pogatchinik. Both articles insinuated that the Irish Church was responsible for the neglect that led to the deaths of 796 children at the orphanage between the years of 1926 and 1961. The June 8 article published the claim that the deceased children were denied Christian burials. “Babies born inside the institutions were denied baptism and, if they died from the illness and disease rife in such facilities, also denied a Christian burial,” the piece reads. ATB Edited June 22, 2014 by Mickey Finn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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