RemyBolt 420 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Ok vin also anyone with a lurcher should be made to have a dangerous animal licence as well. Lets not forget what the lurchers are bred for. You get your idiots in all walks of life. Why should reputable owners be made to be punished for some idiots. A well balanced dog is a well balanced dog no matter if its a lab\rottie\pitbull or yorkie. My friend Ian has a dangerous animals license and he has a couple of Pits. Lovely things. His girls will go in and feed them, they are the cutest of animals and only want to please! Which is why they were used to fight. They want to please their masters so much that they'll fight to the death, if that's what they think the master wants them to do. In the Victorian days the Staffie was called the Nanny Dog, because they would protect the children of the house, while also having their ears chewed by the baby, and having a finger wedged up the nose by the newly walking tike. I have seen 3 year old kids jump off the stairs and half squish Staffies, and the Staff has just turned around and started licking the child. The thing is, ANY DOG can be dangerous. It all depends on how they are trained. Caeser Millan used to use Pitbulls as being the calming presence and the most placid of his dogs, to help train other dogs. How dangerous is a dog is 99.9% owner and 0.1% down to the dog. There are guys in Africa that have HYENAS as pets! No joke! A harder bite than a crocodile, and they're pets!!! The dog was just behaving on it's survival instinct, and it went into hunt mode. The loss of life is tragic, and my heart goes out to the man and his family. It's like blaming a gun and bullet on killing someone. My question for the gun thing, who was aiming it, had it loaded, and it's the gun's fault? Same as dogs, it's down to the owners! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Just alone naw neems but put in place an also if dogs are seen without muzzles taken away an pts no second chances something along that lines something has to be done.if someone seen them then they shoulda phoned straight away still wouldn't solve this problem,it would just punish 99% of dog owners unjustifiably,I think there's a good chance this dog escaped from its house,if not that often is the case. The problem we have here is imo irresponsible idiots owning highly driven powerful dogs,and accidents inevitably occurring. Maybe licensing muzzling etc etc would work though certainly not all of the time,and that's not a road anyone who values their own freedom wants to go down. The only definite solution is destroy all dogs,but at the other end of the spectrum we could just try and make owners responsible for f@ck ups first and then go from there. treat these dykes as if they beat the man to death themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well IMO anyone who knowingly keeps a dog that if the chance it escaped would attack someone Then they should be prosecuted to the max. And why you want such a f***ing animal in the first place is questionable . Living with a time bomb 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well IMO anyone who knowingly keeps a dog that if the chance it escaped would attack someone Then they should be prosecuted to the max. And why you want such a f*****g animal in the first place is questionable . Living with a time bomb Well IMO anyone who knowingly keeps a dog that if the chance it escaped would attack someone Then they should be prosecuted to the max. And why you want such a f*****g animal in the first place is questionable . Living with a time bomb I do agree we should do that if necessary,but why jump from stage 0 to stage 10? In other countries just being held responsible for your dogs actions works,if it doesn't work here THEN try something a bit more extreme. just jumping straight in the deep end does no-one any good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I agree any man biter wants a bullet unless protecting home\family. Out of interest how many of you would be disappointed if your dog didn't defend your home against an intruder? A few more then that will admit on this thread i'm sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I know mine would. But that's not why I have a dog. Hey KD I know you like them mate and I understand why you feel strongly. I'm the opposite I'd put them all to sleep along with thier owners lol But I make no bones about the fact I f***ing hate those type of dogs if I never saw one again it be to soon 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Focus needs to be on the owners rather than breeds. Banning or targeting breeds doesn't work as proven with the dda 1991. Tougher on those who can't control their dogs but educate people in the first place. Some people just ain't got a clue and need the help. You will always have those who want a dog for the wrong reasons and tougher law if their dog fucks up hopefully will be enough for them to think it ain't worth it. For what it is worth I've been around plenty of working bull breeds and never once felt nervous nor had any problem. I'd be more nervous around someone with a working breed which doesn't work it as the dogs probably in a home where it's not understood. Either way we all know you can't trust any dog 100% as much as we like to believe we can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Bollocks you can give all the help you want to some people, but the sad fact is people are f***ing stupid! f**k they get a child prob the most precious thing someone can own. And they f**k that up Aswell. No some folk shouldn't be allowed anything that needs cared for. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Or if a dog attacks anyone owner fully responsible but these b*****ds in suits dont give a fuk about people i blame goverment for having shite laws shite sentences an they just dint care.the sooner people realise the better.wait to hear what dick face camwank says.sorry for profanity but this is just sickening Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'm pretty indifferent to bull/mastiff breeds, I wouldn't mind seeing them in a working environment........but unfortunately the majority spend their lives straining on the end of a leash, whilst at he other end, you often have an unsuitable owner....... But there's plenty other breeds unsuitable for the majority of the public........only the other day, I had to walk past a rather petite women, struggling to hold on to a Kangal........it was probably only about 9 months, same as the terrier I was walking & already she could barely hold it back from me......madness! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,540 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 How sad is that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 My friend Ian has a dangerous animals license and he has a couple of Pits. Lovely things. His girls will go in and feed them, they are the cutest of animals and only want to please! Which is why they were used to fight. They want to please their masters so much that they'll fight to the death, if that's what they think the master wants them to do. Lets hope for everyones sake your mate Ian has a better understanding of his chosen breed than you have !!.............Its this repulsive fur mommy nonsense that all but destroyed the breed in the first place if someone wants a cute ball of fluff dont choose a breed that is the worlds premier dog at inflicting pain and violence !...........A dog will take its death in a fight because it wants to......not because you want it to. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) If you got rid of all the 'hard' looking dogs the idiots would end up with golden retrievers, probably abused and badly bred into being man aggressive. I think anyone who wants a dog should pass a test showing a basic knowledge of dog psychology and training. At least that would prevent a lot of new owners ending up with a dogs that are out of control. Edited June 4, 2014 by C556 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Gnasher is right, Battle Dogs fight, because they want to fight,.same as some people... However,..they should have no desire to bite a human,.unless commanded (and conditioned) to do so.... If a canine takes a liking to ragging a man, a woman or a child,..it needs putting in the ground,..ASAP... 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,277 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Ok vin also anyone with a lurcher should be made to have a dangerous animal licence as well. Lets not forget what the lurchers are bred for. You get your idiots in all walks of life. Why should reputable owners be made to be punished for some idiots. A well balanced dog is a well balanced dog no matter if its a lab\rottie\pitbull or yorkie. My friend Ian has a dangerous animals license and he has a couple of Pits. Lovely things. His girls will go in and feed them, they are the cutest of animals and only want to please! Which is why they were used to fight. They want to please their masters so much that they'll fight to the death, if that's what they think the master wants them to do. ! . What an absolute load of drivel...Yokel. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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