22 Hornet, 17Hmr, 22-250, 222, 223 Options

[let'sshoot 11]

Yes, always a bank, I reload and fmjs are for free compared to expanding

Thanks

[Deker 3,478]

how about using fmjs in the 223 for head shot rabbits, just as humane as an air rifle pellet, more accurate than an air rifle, capable of much longer shots - great practice and no meat damage.

 

Thanks

:laugh: :laugh:

 

Sorry, but that is the first time I have heard a 1000ft lb PLUS FMJ described as "just as humane as an air rifle pellet"

 

[bbs 26]

.22 hornet or .222 or .17rem would be my choice, the first two are reasonably quiet, the .17 will let you shoot foxes a little bit further and is one deadly flat shooting round, to be honest with a nv set up you are not going to be shooting foxes @300 yards probably more like -150 yards so a hornet will do all you want at that distance, personally I would go for the .222 super accurate, dead easy to reload for, cheap rifles, plenty of ammo available, quiet (in cf terms) and will drop foxes @ 250 yards all day (or night in your case) a nice light CZ 527 with a PES end can will do the job nicely Hutchey [/quote. That's what I use on charlie and have shot out to 350 and stoped foxy dead I have the cz 527 with a t8 can and what a tool would recomend that to anye one ]

Edited May 31, 2014 by bbs

[hutchey 147]

Thought of the hornet but both my local RFD's say that stock ammo is poor.

They also suggested 222 as being limited for ammo compared to 223

I need to go and see someone with a hornet and see if I can try it.

Same for 222 and 223

[charlie caller 3,654]

Hutchy I love the hornet mate, but unless you are going to reload for it, or can get a regular supply of 35gn vmax factory stuff I would leave it, most factory ammo is garbage.

[rob reynolds uk 3]

.204 is a faster round then the 22.250 and cheaper to load ..less powder and cheaper bullets ,less lead.. but just as deadly out to 500mtrs use 39grn bullets ...past 550 mtrs the 22.250 wins but only just..cant do with the 22lr buy a fac air rifle or get a hmr17 or the new magnum .17 3000fps ..

[Alsone 789]

.204 is a faster round then the 22.250

 

Not out of the factory it isn't. Nothing to choose between them, literally a few FPS unless you compare bullet weights like for like, then the .22-250 is a heavier round for any given speed.

 

So in any given bullet weight, the .22-250 is faster and has more energy.

 

eg. 40gr 4,224ft/s vs 3,900 ft/s in favour of the .22-250 and 300ft lbs more energy.

 

Can't comment on reloading.

 

From the wiki (as fastest source):

 

.22-250

 

 

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy 40 gr (3 g) BT 4,224 ft/s (1,287 m/s) 1,585 ft·lbf (2,149 J) 50 gr (3 g) SP 3,945 ft/s (1,202 m/s) 1,728 ft·lbf (2,343 J) 55 gr (4 g) SP 3,786 ft/s (1,154 m/s) 1,751 ft·lbf (2,374 J) 60 gr (4 g) BT 3,580 ft/s (1,090 m/s) 1,708 ft·lbf (2,316 J) 64 gr (4 g) Power Point 3,500 ft/s (1,100 m/s) 1,741 ft·lbf (2,360 J)

 

 

.204 Ruger:

 

 

Ballistic performance

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy 32 gr (2 g) BT 4,225 ft/s (1,288 m/s) 1,268 ft·lbf (1,719 J) 40 gr (3 g) BT 3,900 ft/s (1,200 m/s) 1,351 ft·lbf (1,832 J) 45 gr (3 g) SP 3,625 ft/s (1,105 m/s) 1,313 ft·lbf (1,780 J)

 

 

Not saying there aren't other advantages to the .204, but on velocity and energy, the .22-250 takes it.

Edited June 1, 2014 by Alsone

[charlie caller 3,654]

And just to add the .22-250 bucks the wind better, and you can shoot deer with it as well as foxes, which is a massive string to its bow, so to speak, if you have the chance of the odd Munty, cwd, or fancy a trip to Scotland on the roe, and there is a far far wider choice of bullets for the .224 calibre rifles.

[hutchey 147]

 

 

Hutchey as you know I have both .222 and .223 both with jet z moderators next time your down we could compare the two but I have to say I can't tell the difference .

 

Which if either has your N750?

.223

I so need to get out or I'm going to knock someone out

[charlie caller 3,654]

You need a .222 for that mate lol.