Whippet X Or Small Lurcher

[Nobby8126 96]

Hi guys. I have a fair amount of permission to shoot on the Isle of Wight but have been toying with the idea with working some dogs for a while. Now I know there is no definitive answer and a heated debate will probably erupt like asking what pellet calibre is best but I would appreciate advice.

Long and short is I have kids and I would like it to be comfortable as a pet ,low maintainance grooming wise, barking ect and able to effectively retrieve and work the lamp. Not after record numbers will be used a couple of time a week but excersized on permission daily. So is it a whippet or is it a lurcher. Do I go for a pup or do I go for a young adult.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

[paulus 26]

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[Nobby8126 96]

Thanks.

[roybo 2,873]

Either ,but,my preference would be a lurcher,of medium size,that the parents do the work you want the pup to do ,see as many litters as possible,ask many questions ,be a pain in the arse ,if they don't want to answer,walk away.

I'd be wary when they own both parents and they are both young.

Oh and do a search on here as it's been asked loads of times and the usual answer is collie x greyhound x whippet or something similar,

But get something that you like,beware of puppy pedlars

[nothernlite 18,086]

You say your wanting some working dogs why not get one of each problem solved if you were just getting the one my choice would be lurcher thats just because thats what i keep myself small ones not one above 21tts and they suit me fine As roybo says get them from working parents and you should be ok good luck

[Ideation 8,216]

Pup.

 

And just go and look for a pup out of two dogs doing what you want the pup to do, well. And of a type that you like.

 

Then pile the time into it!

[the big chief 3,099]

Either ,but,my preference would be a lurcher,of medium size,that the parents do the work you want the pup to do ,see as many litters as possible,ask many questions ,be a pain in the arse ,if they don't want to answer,walk away.

I'd be wary when they own both parents and they are both young.

Oh and do a search on here as it's been asked loads of times and the usual answer is collie x greyhound x whippet or something similar,

But get something that you like,beware of puppy pedlars

why wary if they own both or is it be wary if they are both young dogs ??

[Ideation 8,216]

 

Either ,but,my preference would be a lurcher,of medium size,that the parents do the work you want the pup to do ,see as many litters as possible,ask many questions ,be a pain in the arse ,if they don't want to answer,walk away.

I'd be wary when they own both parents and they are both young.

Oh and do a search on here as it's been asked loads of times and the usual answer is collie x greyhound x whippet or something similar,

But get something that you like,beware of puppy pedlars

why wary if they own both or is it be wary if they are both young dogs ??

 

 

 

I can see what he is saying, it can work two ways, first, they have worked out what they want in the future, got a dog and bitch in, tested and tested them to satisfaction and then bred what they want.

 

But also when someone has both sire and damn and they aren't that old etc, you get the impression they may just be breeding a litter because they can, and doing it the way thats least hassle rather than the way that will produce top dogs.

 

How many folk are lucky enough to have a great bitch and a great dog . . . . . at the same time?

 

Some are, and some are just chancers.

 

P.S - This isn't a dig at you mate, I know you have spent a lot of time thinking about your litter. I remember when you first got the bitch ages ago, and had half an idea of doing the breeding then.

[the big chief 3,099]

 

 

Either ,but,my preference would be a lurcher,of medium size,that the parents do the work you want the pup to do ,see as many litters as possible,ask many questions ,be a pain in the arse ,if they don't want to answer,walk away.

I'd be wary when they own both parents and they are both young.

Oh and do a search on here as it's been asked loads of times and the usual answer is collie x greyhound x whippet or something similar,

But get something that you like,beware of puppy pedlars

 

why wary if they own both or is it be wary if they are both young dogs ??

 

I can see what he is saying, it can work two ways, first, they have worked out what they want in the future, got a dog and bitch in, tested and tested them to satisfaction and then bred what they want.

 

But also when someone has both sire and damn and they aren't that old etc, you get the impression they may just be breeding a litter because they can, and doing it the way thats least hassle rather than the way that will produce top dogs.

 

How many folk are lucky enough to have a great bitch and a great dog . . . . . at the same time?

 

Some are, and some are just chancers.

 

P.S - This isn't a dig at you mate, I know you have spent a lot of time thinking about your litter. I remember when you first got the bitch ages ago, and had half an idea of doing the breeding then.

i got her on the intension to breed down the line mate not early doors i don't believe in doing it that way and took me a while to find the right bitch and i managed to find one that i was very happy with how she works and goes about doing her job i own both parents of my pups this is why i asked

[buster gonads 862]

3/4 whippet 1/4 collie or 3/4 whippet 1/4 beddy would be my choice Nobby, the whippet blood tends to give them a laid back attitude when around the home.

[krawnden 1,036]

After keeping lurchers for 30 years, last year I did something I've never done before (with a lurcher, though have also done it with a greyhound) and got a young adult from a rescue place without knowing anything about his breeding. He's a lovely dog and has a home for life but I don't think he's ever going to make a first class worker. Part of that is down to his early upbringing before I got him. From now on I'll revert back to what I've always done in the past and get them as pups. That way you can bring them up exactly the way you want. So whether you end up with a whippet or a lurcher I'd definitely recommend going for a pup. atb with it either way...

[teddog 59]

pure whippet pup,game and fast and excellent around the house.

[Nobby8126 96]

Great advice lads thanks. I'm only after one ATM purely as my warden em I mean wife will be easier to deal with. I've had ex racing greyhounds before just as pets and thoroughly love the breed but they are coffee cup assassins with their tail which is why I want something smaller. I've read up on different crosses and have ruled out beddy whippet purely because of the stubbornness and have been swaying more toward pure whippet. I realise if I get a pup I will know its training and getting one used to working I may end up with someone else's ruined dog. But being new to it it would be handy to have a head start with a pooch with half a clue than for me to potentially bugger it up, going forward I will defo be training my own but this is my first dalliance in working dogs. Not many advertised over here but there are lots about it's all about who you know. Took me a year to get my first permission and when they realised I'm not some gun toting muppet more soon followed. Will keep hunting.

[andy97 209]

if you can get something at about 6-10month n like the dog id do that some say pup but i got a dog at nearly 9month old had him about 6month now and couldnt ask anymore of him that hes doing i wanted something i can bring on myself but still take him for the odd rabbit on the lamp now after 6 month hes on the ball runs the beam good fast strong dog recall shit hot so its each to there own but with anything you get theres a chance it could be a bag of shit wouldnt get one older than that mind unless your just wanting it for the up coming season

[roybo 2,873]

Gaffer I mean be wary of both ,as SOMETIMES folk breed whatever they have,rather than picking the best example they can.and I ask if there was a better stud available,or whether it was just handy,same about the bitch

If both parents are young ...well need I elaborate?

Just my experiences while looking for a pup.I looked for a good while.

Not finger pointing

Edited May 27, 2014 by roybo