Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 What a brilliant first night for the pup: I've always brought mine up bushing by day and they normally take to the lamp very well: a case of activating the brain while young so they soon cotton on to a different method of hunting by night. Well done that pup, and good on Jim for taking you both out Cheers Penny. The daytime work for me was ban more about getting her used go situations and obstacles than doing any hunting. Her Sire died not long after the pups were born, he seemed to have no spacial awareness and crashed into every obstacle he could. So I have tried to combat this. At first she was VERY nose down and even 4 foot away from a rabbit she would be sniffing the ground. But half way through the night she realised that she had got a set of eyes as well as a nose and the last few slips were about 50 yards away and she had seen them fine. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 It already been said no close season for rabbits, we only stop for the respect for the breeding season unless you are making a living out of it. So it what people choose to do with their own dogs at the end of the day. Gaz least you out there doing it not, sitting behind a screen arguing the facts about it. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 no point hanging about... get em out and see what there made of.. man and dog now both know whats expected of each other in one night, well done men and dog. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 It already been said no close season for rabbits, we only stop for the respect for the breeding season unless you are making a living out of it. So it what people choose to do with their own dogs at the end of the day. Gaz least you out there doing it not, sitting behind a screen arguing the facts about it. Cheers mate. Like I say I aren't a summer hunter as a rule. Never went last summer at all. Did a bit of shooting the summer before for a farmer but that's it. I will probably take her somewhere equally as rabbit populated again when she is 12 months old so around July time. Then leave her another 8 weeks and it will be into September then and start ramping it up slowly until we are lamping her regularly. I will still give my old bitch a few nights on the lamp aswell. Would like to get a 50 with her this season before she starts slowing down. Can't see her getting much work next season. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 no point hanging about... get em out and see what there made of.. man and dog now both know whats expected of each other in one night, well done men and dog. Cheers Vin. I had a word with her when we got back. I said "you might think that was a big shift, think again pup, that was your introduction and a taster of whats to come"... She fell asleep while I was talking Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Im all for letting a young dog receive its education,no matter the time of year,fair play and well done,letting any dog run through sheep,especially now,is nothing but irresponsible and fecks more permission,alienates farmers against lurcher owners and is the act of stupidity and ignorance.A dog on a long gallop may eventually enter land holding livestock,then its unfortunate,a dog lamping bunnys on short controlled runs would need taking into a field holding sheep,at this time of year with lambs at foot,im sad to see no others on this extensive post have issues with such. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Im all for letting a young dog receive its education,no matter the time of year,fair play and well done,letting any dog run through sheep,especially now,is nothing but irresponsible and fecks more permission,alienates farmers against lurcher owners and is the act of stupidity and ignorance.A dog on a long gallop may eventually enter land holding livestock,then its unfortunate,a dog lamping bunnys on short controlled runs would need taking into a field holding sheep,at this time of year with lambs at foot,im sad to see no others on this extensive post have issues with such. Just you by the looks of it. Lol. Sheep were at bottom of field. Pup was slipped at the top. It was unfortunate the rabbit turned her and headed to the sheep, but great experience non the less? Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 If somebody in my company ever slipped a dog around sheep,they would never accompany me on land again,a dog never needs to chase sheep to cause wanton mayhem and injury to them,just running in their vicinity is enough to wreak havoc.Its a cardinal lurcher sin to some,of little importance.or relevance to others,many others it seems,how depairingly sad. Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 What all year round Morton? Iv got full permission to run through sheep most of the season with dogs, farmers are more than happy about it, but they trust me and my mutts. Some times of year it's common sense to stay away from them Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 What all year round Morton? Iv got full permission to run through sheep most of the season with dogs, farmers are more than happy about it, but they trust me and my mutts. Some times of year it's common sense to stay away from them I know a few people with permission to run stock broken dogs through sheep in the winter with no problems at all. I'm sure the farmer would rather we stayed away at this time of year but it isn't always possible and I have spent many many hours breaking the pup to stock. A bit different to taking an unknown dog and slipping directly through sheep. Quote Link to post
tjones3862 3,423 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 ive not got the permission mick dadd,, has it,,,, a farm up the dale,s,,, sheep there like ants ,,,there in every field, we ferret,,,,the farmer dose not have problem,, with the dogs chaceing the odd rabbit whats slips the net,,,,, when there tupping ,,,, we stay off the ground,,, that's his rules,,,, 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 All my permission is sheep farms and i wouldnt go near them at this time of year dont think he would let me lamp at this time but i doubt if he has the same problem as the place in question jmo sometime i cant on the ground till early november when most of this years lambs are sold Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hot meat,nearly all my permission is in sheep country,thus the dogs their sport,farmers and their livestock all meet at times.Accidents happen,especially a dog on a long gallop,most of my hunting is done when there are no lambs at foot,much of it is done when ewes are carrying in winter,the time when they are at the most risk from dogs and the influence a dog running through them as.I make it my purpose to respect the landowner and more importantly to respect his stock and livelihood,thats why i keep my permission and the landowners grace and favour,the majority of sheep soon learn to accept you and the dog and will react accordingly,the odd short run in these circumstances,daytime,causes them little duress,at night,with lambs at foot,not for me or mine. 1 Quote Link to post
tjones3862 3,423 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) gaz if we go by the book in this game we will put toe'cap boots on the dogs,,,,lol and some 1 will still say they need a hard hat,,lol last year I watched a farmer up the dale lambs in the same field,,, he moved them,,, to the next feild using a collie,,,i must say the dog looked a little hard on them,,,,but im no farmer,,,,your dog the other nite did not even make them move,,, Edited May 25, 2014 by tjones3862 Quote Link to post
RossM 8,119 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 gaz if we go by the book in this game we will put toe'cap boots on the dogs,,,,lol and some 1 will still say they need a hard hat,,lol last year I watched a farmer up the dale lambs in the same field,,, he moved them,,, to the next using a collie,,,i must say the dog looked a little hard on them,,,,but im no farmer,,,,your dog the other nite did not even make them move,,, Don't forget the hi viz vest and the 'dog at work' signs............ Quote Link to post
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