collie lurchers

[Stabs 3]

You're right about them hunting up mate! :11:

[sash 2]

yes your right there lucky, if you work areas with lots of fences you need a dog which can jump wel and at the same time use its brain to turn the rabits away from them. but if you want a pure muscle dog get the bullx. you cant realy use a colliex on the same quary as a bull 

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whys that then sash ? as for what you say about using its brains to keep the rabbits away from the hedge, fence , I have seen most x's do that including pure salukis est. jumping est. is mostly down to the trainer get the right bull or collie blood-lines and they will do as good as each other as far as working goes.

 

easy mush. yes but, which is genraly known for a better lamping dog a collie or bull?

i agree that colliex can catch fox, but its not as strong as a bull. iv seen (on sepert occasions) that a colliex can be to clever for its own good if it gets a good kicking from a fox, the next time it wont strike (which iv seen). the bull on the other hand got bit thru the foot and 10 min later it was neck to neck with another. thats why you cant always use a collie for the same quarry as a bull

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easy mush. yes but, which is genraly known for a better lamping dog a collie or bull?

i agree that colliex can catch fox, but its not as strong as a bull. iv seen (on sepert occasions) that a colliex can be to clever for its own good if it gets a good kicking from a fox, the next time it wont strike (which iv seen). the bull on the other hand got bit thru the foot and 10 min later it was neck to neck with another. thats why you cant always use a collie for the same quarry as a bull

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Well the blood on the fawn bitch isn't off the fox :11: , and I have seen both dogs get bit in the face, legs est. many times and take another after. Now if you want to go out the next night after a dogs got bit up bad that might be a different story . and as for which is best , at what ? and crossed with what? Think of it this way how many bulls are there compared to bc ? so when breeding, from which are you most likely going to get the most crap from? the poplar breed with a lot of un-tested dogs in it or the breed most wouldn't bother keeping one unless its a good one?

[sash 2]

in that quote i never asked which is best, did i?

 

from which are you most likely going to get the most crap from? well the ans to that is dependent on how much you feed it lol :11:

[Guest mush]

in that quote i never asked which is best, did i?

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you nit picker :11: well I would say better is best

from which are you most likely going to get the most crap from? well the ans to that is dependent on how much you feed it lol :11:

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and if the dog recycles it :sick:

[Guest diesel]

lol lads.. i think this a matter of opinion.. i profer a bull cross but that maybe because iv been brought up with them and never kept any other fox dog apart from a wheaton grey.. generally we have foxes flushed towards our dogs to be run and KILLED so they seem better for this.. but if i wanted something to hunt then run a fox i would look into a collie but im not a massive fan on them.. horses for courses...

[Stabs 3]

I like collie crosses, but then again I would. My favourite field sport is ferreting and I've been lucky enough to see some really good dogs working at this game. I don't have the rabbit numbers that some folk off here have but there's nothing better than seeing my dog "hunt" them up and although bags are small (very small ) I love the craic. Just to stand and watch a dog hunt is enough for me and it amazes me to watch them use their senses to pick up their quarry. Obviously this isn't limited to only collie crosses, and I suppose a lot of it's down to how you bring a dog on, but a nose seems to be a trait that the collie cross is known for. Mind you, I've seen Chilli's bull cross out and about and that bitch knows what she's doing when it comes to working up.

 

I've got some little staffords and their heart, drive and sheer bloody mindedness to see a job through is another thing that I marvel at. I think for the night after night, time after time foxing boys, a little bit of the never say die attitude, the pig headed stubborness and sheer delight at killing that the bull brings is a revelation. With them, it's you who decides when the evening is over and not the other way around. They need a shrewd owner though as they can and do go on when perhaps it was in their best interests to stop and this is where you have to draw the line.

[lucky 578]

good post stabs

i've seen some bull crosses work that are exellent at hunting up and lethal around cover when working on there own or with the terriers. i've also seen some collie crosses that have been just as good if not better when it comes to hunting up, but from my experiences i think the bull cross is a shade better around cover, the ones i've had and seen work (on foxes and deer mainly) present and past would'nt hesitate to crash through anything on the slightest indication that something was there.i don't know whether to put this down to lack of brain cells or sheer keeness or maybe both .

nowadays i only keep bull crosses because it's very rare i run anything but deer and fox but if i was doing a bit of everything and had to choose one dog i'd choose my older dog (5yo) Tyke which will take anything but at the same time he's very steady and sensible.

 

Tyke collie/bull/greyhound

[Guest CharlieC]

good post lucky.

Im a fan of collie and bull crosses, and I also like the mix of the two, collie/greyhound x bull or bull/greyhound can make an awesome mix.

[hedgesteeper 2]

Ive had collie types, for twenty years, and they are good little dogs,first crosses are my favourite,the 1 i have is a good lamp dog,especially good at catching em in hedge bottoms,very clever and loyal,and shes a bloody good gaurd dog.she doesnt want to know foxes,the previous one would killem easy ,the main problem i have with this one is she's mental one deer,which is a pain in the arse, and[with a ban]as she will come off rabbits to chase em,they can become very possesive mentally over things and have odd collie type ways, but they are good grafters and dont like to give up,..in my exsperience anyway, saying that ive got a little lurcherx lurcher type who is one hell of a dog totally different but jst as good in her own way

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from which are you most likely going to get the most crap from? well the ans to that is dependent on how much you feed it lol :11:

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and if the dog recycles it :sick:

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lol :11:

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I, ran my bull cross IN THE NLRC FIELD TRIALS, she won, the other 3 lurchers ,were collie crosses, but i still like watching a good collie lurcher working.

[Kane 2]

personality in them and a bit of craftyness i think it gives them charecter my mate on this site that i go to college with has just got him self a 1/4 bull x 3/4 grey but i dont realy like them that much what are your opinions

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Lifeisloud, just out of intrest what is it you dislike about Bullxs,Ive had both Bullxs and colliexs in the past I find advantages and dissadvantages in both types as for character I find most working lurchers ,working dogs for that matter, have it in abundance.

[Guest lifeisloud]

loki i got nothing against you your dog wass just not suitable for my house. it would have been miserable while i was at college. the dog i wanted of you had far to many problems and i wouldnt hav looked after it as best i could hav. and im sorry for annoying you so much