atilla the hunter 60 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Here's something I been thinking about. While on a 20 hour road trip totaly hypothetical before I get slaughterd lol 2 litter brothers peas in a pod dog 1 is a top dog gives its all evry time out and is lost, , dog 2 dosent make the grade comes away spewes what ever u want to call it but is lucky and still alive , now u have a top bitch same way bread the better dog is gone the second dog is shite the brothers share the exactly the same blood whuld the chances of producing workers be the same from each dog being the same blood. Or what whuld the good dog have to offer that the spewer dident? what's the difference if the blood is exactly the same 2 Quote Link to post
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 F**kin Lovely little Thinker! I, too, shall be interested in theories on this one! 1 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,686 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Are you saying the bitch shares same ancestory as the 2 dogs? If so for me no,I would be looking for a different sire ,one that gives 100 percent,at his job. To be honest I would be doubtful about using the jacker anyway,some pups don't make the grade with both parents 100 percent workers ,let alone if ones not pulling its weight. Quote Link to post
atilla the hunter 60 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 The bitch whuld be half sister to the 2 brothers hypotheticly speaking Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,686 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Then a no from me,find different stud. Quote Link to post
atilla the hunter 60 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 So forest you whuld rather use a compleat stranger to your line rather than use a jacker of the same blood? 1 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,758 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Lol not a thinker for me as the answer is no end of ! Quote Link to post
atilla the hunter 60 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 What are your reasons marshman If the blood is exactly the same what whuld the good dog pass on what the jacker whuldent? Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 What are your reasons marshman If the blood is exactly the same what whuld the good dog pass on what the jacker whuldent? Peace of mind 6 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,758 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 What are your reasons marshman If the blood is exactly the same what whuld the good dog pass on what the jacker whuldent? well what your hoping is that the good dog would pass on the "minerals" that he's lesser cur of a brother doesn't have. So if the good dog wasn't about and had died, I would look for a relative ie grandfather uncle or half brother of course one that grafts and use that. 1 Quote Link to post
atilla the hunter 60 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I agree hot meat but you can not use a dead dog no matter how good it was ,,, so whuld you use a total out cross what might not gel or take your chance on a jacker from a predictable line what has the exact same blood as the good dog what is fertiliser,,, basicly what I am getting at is what's the difference if the blood is exactly the same Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 It's been proven it's not always the best worker/performer that's the best producer when it comes to breeding, if you found yourself in the situation you have thought up, then you have a choice to make, some will some won't. But the first question I'd ask meself is could I have faith in dogs bred out a jacker??? 6 Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 It's been proven it's not always the best worker/performer that's the best producer when it comes to breeding, if you found yourself in the situation you have thought up, then you have a choice to make, some will some won't. But the first question I'd ask meself is could I have faith in dogs bred out a jacker??? and there is the answer what if a litter of 6 throws one star but 5 potlickers would you still breed from the one good one 1 Quote Link to post
atilla the hunter 60 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Good answer hotmeat :-) if you was in the situation whuld you go for a Unrelated outcross or use the jacker what's litter brother and sisters were bang on apart from the un culled brother. Let's say these dogs are orphans no relations to hand to rule out the obvious answers Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,485 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 They wont share the same gene combinations 1 Quote Link to post
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