fireman 10,997 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Now i haven't slated the poor lad who died of cancer and i do think he did well to raise the money he did and i've started this thread so i don't ruin the other one any more and if the mods want to have a sort through it and get rid of what i've said then i don't mind one bit .What i was trying to say is i think "hero" and other such like words are far to over used these days and as it goes some of you did come back and agree with me that the title he has been given is a little to much ,i have a brother with terminal cancer so i sure as shite ain't making light of what he had or did and fare play to the lad but i myself see hero's and insperational people differently to most of you it seems and as for helping others i do and have(helped get a couple of folks clean as well blackmaggie ) and did my donation to craigyboys fund make me a hero?,no it didn't i was just like Stephen and many many others a person who happened to help out others for a good cause and to try to play it for more than it was is wrong imo and with Stephen i think your all wrong in putting him up there with "real life hero's". So let the insults carry on as like i say "don't give two fcuks" but just thought i'd try to clear the point i was trying to make. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I've got to agree with you....I'd never heard of him till I seen he died on Facebook. Didn't read much on it but he seemed like a tough young lad that fought a terrible illness. Sounds like he done his bit to raise money for others too so that makes him a real nice guy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,580 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I,m certainly not going to insult people for having an opinion , to which they,re entitled to have , I do wonder though why any one would be bothered to take issue with people calling that young lad a "hero " , If you think he,s a hero , then he,s a hero , if he inspires you ,then he,s an inspiration , no harm done . 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Look lads Its opinions Everyone has different opinions If everyone had the same opinion the world would be a boring place. Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,377 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) fireman i commend you for not only beating your own addiction but helping others rid themselves of theres and by me stating different i hold my hands up with that one and i agree like i said hero is banded about to much gave footballers and actors has a example but i think that young lad was more worthy than them with the title but the fact the young lad was still trying to raise money in his final days i found that inspirational some found it heroic because you opinion is different from mine or others doesnt make it right or wrong but the money he helped raise helps any youngsters and there family to come to terms with cancer then im sure his selfless effort wont be in vain Edited May 17, 2014 by blackmaggie 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 he made the best of a bad situation, does that make him a hero, to me no but it sure does show he was a brave caring soul who put others before himself, the world would be a far better place if this was the norm instead of a rarity, just think what could be achieved in a short space of time.............................. Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,997 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Fare points folks and again i'm sorry if i offended him in any way it wasn't ment like that it's like blackmaggie says footballers,actors etc all called hero's when there far from it and that's the sort of point i was trying to make badly and thank you BM but no appoligy needed mate as i didn't word myself properly 1 Link to post Share on other sites
clipo 871 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 what addiction did you have mate??? seen it thrown around on the couple of threads but never heard you mention it before??? tell me to f**k off if you want....... Link to post Share on other sites
pip1968 2,490 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 what addiction did you have mate??? seen it thrown around on the couple of threads but never heard you mention it before??? tell me to f**k off if you want....... does it matter Link to post Share on other sites
clipo 871 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 what addiction did you have mate??? seen it thrown around on the couple of threads but never heard you mention it before??? tell me to f**k off if you want....... does it matter well no not really!!!! just thought it might help us understand his posts on this subject more...... i said he can tell me to f**k off he he wants...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 One person called him a hero and you made a bit of a fuss about it?? Saying things like sure he raised a few quid, think you'll find it was more than a few quid! Also you said he done nothing before his illness, how do you know?? So fecking negative man!! Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Fair play mate That's the the thing about opinions not all are the same. As long as it's kept civil, unfortunately there a few can't manage that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,997 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 what addiction did you have mate??? seen it thrown around on the couple of threads but never heard you mention it before??? tell me to f**k off if you want....... Heroin ,nigh on 10 year habit,been clean over 10 years now(probebly 12 years) and it has no links to who or what i concider a hero mate, not to bothered if it affects how folks view me i'm still the same fella as before they knew that about me and the only way if affects my life now is i can't see some of my old mates as there still at it and it's not a life i want any part of ever again. 13 Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 10 year clean fireman? Well done matey well done. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,984 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 like said on the other post, for a young person to know he only here for a short while, and to try to raise money to help to fight this feckin thing is 100% inspirational person . hope to fook I can face my death like he did, he got lot of bottle and the last days of his life must have bee in pain.I know this becase my father died of stomach cancer , and the last 3 weeks of his life he was in lot of pain, we never got on on but he was brave just like this young lad was . you have to dig deep in to your self to handle your fate+pain, but my dad had good innings 85 , it was only the last year of his life he went down.But for a young person to be told you not going to make 25, it takes some balls to do what he did, to try to help others as well with raising money he deff Hero in my book.Dont forget people who join the forces and put there lives on the line, do so through choice , this you lad had no choise in the matter fact 4 Link to post Share on other sites
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