Rez 4,961 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Hi all. Just a quick question I've thought of this morning while mounting my Menace to my 98. Firstly, I have to have my ocular lens a bit further away from my eye to get the right relief from the glass which means that the nearest mount doesn't fall over the top of the last of the three recoil pins on the rifle. The scope is set up lovely with the rifle, however, with it being a springer, what are your thoughts on not using the pins when fixing the mounts down, and how much do you think or have experienced the zero shift from not using the pins when using scope and springer? It annoys me that the rifle has been built this way, with only three insets for the pin on the rail, surely there should be more for such this issue [if the pins actually do help] Image below to show you what I mean. atb. Edited May 16, 2014 by Rez Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Ive never had my mounts move backwards with recoil on any of my springers .. ever ! With or without recoil pins! I find my scopes always come really far back towards the cheekpiece for my eye relief to be correct.. Your not arching your head too far forwards are you ? That would strain your neck and you wouldnt be shooting as effectively. But you probably knew that lol Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Heres my 98 when i had the hawke sidewinder on it. They have quite a 'long eye relief of 4 inches or so but you can see its still set quite far back from the back of the action towards the cheekpiece 2 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Tis indeed. You've made me think if I am actually, when shouldering the rifle, having my chops to far forwards, but I dont think I am, Im shouldering it in the most natural way [just done it now - have to check these things] and it just feels right. From your image, it looks like your the other way round, your lens has been positioned further back, and the mount over the area for the pins, not that your using them, whereas I need mine further away. But Im quite happy with the fact that it'll be fine without the security of the pin in place. Theres a feather on your butt too 1 Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 chop a mount down or you can get something ready made to put in the hole .I hate messing about with scope creep I always use something to stop or make sure theres no creep .you can try your scope and see if its fine without or maybe spend time and money on pellets to fine out its not . Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Do the shut your eyes then shoulder your rifle naturally rez and if thats how your comfy then leave it. Hope you dont get any scope creep with the recoil mate. Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Both eyes open my man. Dodgy right eye, so I shoot left handed and always have done, I am right handed mind. I've thought about adding a little mount in front of the rear mount to put the old mind at rest. Will keep you informed skot. @ edit. Nice one Edited May 16, 2014 by Rez 1 Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Im right handed and shoot left handed ! 1 Quote Link to post
Tron 173 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Have you thought about perhaps packing out the recoil pad with a number of steel washers in order to bring the scope position back nearer towards your shooting eye? this would enable the recoil detent hole on the rifle to be used and guarantee that scope creep would be non existant. try it and if it suits you than you could knock up more suitable final spacer. Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Nice one tron. Will look into this. Quote Link to post
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