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[morton 5,368]

Bedlingtons were once recognised as a much prized earth dog,then the kc and ego,s grabbed it by it short curly jacket and fecked the breed for many,many generations,breeding a dog of 19" says much about the owners idea of terrier work,bashing cover is little reflection of a terriers working ability or credentials,alas it seems to be acceptable that a Mutt bashing cover is a grafter,it is not,then using it for lamping .A man in working dogs for a lifetime would source a grafter,then use it as he wished,not a 19" megalump.The main reason honest terriermen will not give the Bedlington a second glance is because of posts like yours,it makes a mockery of the mutt,lamping and a bit of cover work,priceless,yet so despairingly familiar.

[Hareydave 1,214]

Bedlingtons were once recognised as a much prized earth dog,then the kc and ego,s grabbed it by it short curly jacket and fecked the breed for many,many generations,breeding a dog of 19" says much about the owners idea of terrier work,bashing cover is little reflection of a terriers working ability or credentials,alas it seems to be acceptable that a Mutt bashing cover is a grafter,it is not,then using it for lamping .A man in working dogs for a lifetime would source a grafter,then use it as he wished,not a 19" megalump.The main reason honest terriermen will not give the Bedlington a second glance is because of posts like yours,it makes a mockery of the mutt,lamping and a bit of cover work,priceless,yet so despairingly familiar.

ok il pass on your concerns

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Bedlingtons were once recognised as a much prized earth dog,then the kc and ego,s grabbed it by it short curly jacket and fecked the breed for many,many generations,breeding a dog of 19" says much about the owners idea of terrier work,bashing cover is little reflection of a terriers working ability or credentials,alas it seems to be acceptable that a Mutt bashing cover is a grafter,it is not,then using it for lamping .A man in working dogs for a lifetime would source a grafter,then use it as he wished,not a 19" megalump.The main reason honest terriermen will not give the Bedlington a second glance is because of posts like yours,it makes a mockery of the mutt,lamping and a bit of cover work,priceless,yet so despairingly familiar.

But if that's what he wants of the dog then what's the problem?

 

What other dog would do what he wants without (in your opinion) making a mockery of a breed?

[morton 5,368]

A proper bred Beddy,bred from genuine workers,will do all,plus much more,than the lad requires,more importantly it will pass that ability along to its progeny,a 19" terrier only fit to bush and lamp as little to offer the breed,but ridicule.

[Hot Meat 3,109]

If you want a terrier to work cover and do other jobs then why not use a dog that is also capable of earth work.....

 

If it's a 19 inch dog you want then why use a terrier, get a spaniel

[Hareydave 1,214]

A proper bred Beddy,bred from genuine workers,will do all,plus much more,than the lad requires,more importantly it will pass that ability along to its progeny,a 19" terrier only fit to bush and lamp as little to offer the breed,but ridicule.

it a long time from he was called a lad lol so if it dont go to ground it not a working dog. did you hav much trouble sourcing a genuine working deerhound when you were looking a dog for yourself

[morton 5,368]

Ive never ever looked for a genuine working Deerhound,i don,t believe an antique dealer could find one.If its not capable of earthwork,then no,i don,t believe it deserves a working monicur.

Edited May 11, 2014 by morton

[Hareydave 1,214]

If you want a terrier to work cover and do other jobs then why not use a dog that is also capable of earth work.....

 

If it's a 19 inch dog you want then why use a terrier, get a spaniel

it would be hard to breed a beddy/whippet out of a spaniel

[Hot Meat 3,109]

 

Bedlingtons were once recognised as a much prized earth dog,then the kc and ego,s grabbed it by it short curly jacket and fecked the breed for many,many generations,breeding a dog of 19" says much about the owners idea of terrier work,bashing cover is little reflection of a terriers working ability or credentials,alas it seems to be acceptable that a Mutt bashing cover is a grafter,it is not,then using it for lamping .A man in working dogs for a lifetime would source a grafter,then use it as he wished,not a 19" megalump.The main reason honest terriermen will not give the Bedlington a second glance is because of posts like yours,it makes a mockery of the mutt,lamping and a bit of cover work,priceless,yet so despairingly familiar.

But if that's what he wants of the dog then what's the problem?

What other dog would do what he wants without (in your opinion) making a mockery of a breed?

I imagine lots if types and crosses will do that job. Dogs are capable if more than they get credit for. I just don't see size of breeding beddys that tall, crosses FairPlay I understand that but a full working beddy shouldn't be that big

[Hot Meat 3,109]

 

If you want a terrier to work cover and do other jobs then why not use a dog that is also capable of earth work.....If it's a 19 inch dog you want then why use a terrier, get a spaniel

it would be hard to breed a beddy/whippet out of a spaniel

Not but you could breed it out if a working beddy with size that atleast allows it to do its proper job lol I ain't got a problem with guy breeding beddy x anything lol I just find it strange it's a 19 inch beddy lol if it was a 19 inch fell border or Russell then I'd say same lol Edited May 11, 2014 by Hot Meat

[Hareydave 1,214]

Ive never ever looked for a genuine working Deerhound,i don,t believe an antique dealer could find one.If its not capable of earthwork,then no,i don,t believe it deserves a working monicur.

but yet your dogs bred out one somewhere down the line prob show dogs too..would you be happy if he dug that beddy cause there no better man for the job

[stabba 10,745]

Ideal for chucking over sight hounds i suppose...perhaps that was the intention all along

[bunnys 1,236]

personally my choice would be a lurcher that works cover most dont like the stingys but if brought up from small welps and taken through nothing but woodland and copses through the brish and brash ,surprising how they will adapt all mine have to work the cover with control none this bashing about like headless chickens ,not havin a go but there will be far betta terrier types than the one above for base blood .atb bunnys.

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Why are beddy lurchers bred out normal sized beddys too small or crap? Lol

[morton 5,368]

Hareydave,you seem a sensible and level enough sort,my biggest bugbear as a Beddy afficienado is big bushing Bedlingtons,its like a red rag to a Bedlington hating bull,that does,nt bush.There as never been a place in a terrier working kennel for a dog like that,perhaps?.I like Deerhoundy lurchers,id never have anything else,id never breed from a Deerhound,as you rightly pointed out as a working jukel they are less available than a grafting Beddy,possibly rarer.Thats why i look for a Deerhoundy/Collie bred lurcher,which in my opinion,is a better reflection of the original Deerhound than a kc Bred mutt with the same Monicur,id rather have a grafter that looks and behaves like the original,Beddy or Deerhound,than its kc non working equivalent.Cheers mucker.