gwalchmai4110 1,757 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 Quote Link to post
white van man 3,299 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, gwalchmai4110 said: Nice little pack there. Like them 2 black and white ones. Quote Link to post
eastcoast 4,110 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 I have a question in regard to the purpose bred bushing dog in the UK and Ireland. Is a "type" emerging? I used to, and in small way still do use terriers for bushing. Finding the intended animal above ground and catching it or more typically flushing it to a gun or to a dog that can catch it. I understand why terriers are not always the ideal type for the job depending on the land, how professionally the job must be done and of course complying with the present day laws. Hence the reason why people are producing dogs that are a mix of terrier/hound/spaniel. Bushing dogs. We now seem to have dogs that are several generations from the initial base breeds used. And handsome animals some of them are in the photographs on this thread. Form following function. Is an ideal type emerging? The scenting ability and voice of a hound, the closer hunting trait and tractability of a spaniel and tenacity of a terrier without the problematic small size and immediate desire to go to ground. 1 Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,083 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 16 hours ago, eastcoast said: I have a question in regard to the purpose bred bushing dog in the UK and Ireland. Is a "type" emerging? I used to, and in small way still do use terriers for bushing. Finding the intended animal above ground and catching it or more typically flushing it to a gun or to a dog that can catch it. I understand why terriers are not always the ideal type for the job depending on the land, how professionally the job must be done and of course complying with the present day laws. Hence the reason why people are producing dogs that are a mix of terrier/hound/spaniel. Bushing dogs. We now seem to have dogs that are several generations from the initial base breeds used. And handsome animals some of them are in the photographs on this thread. Form following function. Is an ideal type emerging? The scenting ability and voice of a hound, the closer hunting trait and tractability of a spaniel and tenacity of a terrier without the problematic small size and immediate desire to go to ground. I would say no and yes lol. There are ‘types’, but different types will very much suit different ground. I ran a line bred beagle / teckle / terrier / spaniel back home, which was great. Came down south and on this ground etc it was a nightmare. For me bushing dogs fit into three types - pures (terrier, spaniel, hound etc), and then ones with hound and ones without. Ie terrier beagle vs spaniel beagle. What suits depends on ground and how you hunt them - ie on own, in a pack, flushing to guns or runners, or hunting runners alongside etc. 1 Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 15/02/2020 at 12:52, SheepChaser said: I would say no and yes lol. There are ‘types’, but different types will very much suit different ground. I ran a line bred beagle / teckle / terrier / spaniel back home, which was great. Came down south and on this ground etc it was a nightmare. For me bushing dogs fit into three types - pures (terrier, spaniel, hound etc), and then ones with hound and ones without. Ie terrier beagle vs spaniel beagle. What suits depends on ground and how you hunt them - ie on own, in a pack, flushing to guns or runners, or hunting runners alongside etc. what sort of dogs suit you now? you're hants now yeah? Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,083 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, spindolero said: what sort of dogs suit you now? you're hants now yeah? I much prefer hounds and hound types to anything else, but sadly the roads, boundary’s and people make that a bit of a tough one. Currently messing about with a spaniel, and a terrier. But having had a good few folk here on an invite (we have some good bushing days with a gang of us), I would say that spaniel x terrier and terriers that dont drop to ground, or at least are fox only, are the right thing for doing the kind of cover we have. I want it out the cover, if it’s not stopped, I don’t want the little dogs going across a 100 acre field and on and on if that makes sense. Back home, the on and on was the bit I loved! 3 Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 hours ago, SheepChaser said: I much prefer hounds and hound types to anything else, but sadly the roads, boundary’s and people make that a bit of a tough one. Currently messing about with a spaniel, and a terrier. But having had a good few folk here on an invite (we have some good bushing days with a gang of us), I would say that spaniel x terrier and terriers that dont drop to ground, or at least are fox only, are the right thing for doing the kind of cover we have. I want it out the cover, if it’s not stopped, I don’t want the little dogs going across a 100 acre field and on and on if that makes sense. Back home, the on and on was the bit I loved! ye would like something like that myself one day, purely looking for something to hit stuff up for the lurchers Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,448 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Starting to get to know there job and marking a few. 8 Quote Link to post
Foxpack 2 7,849 Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 2 young bitches out of brian .at the minute there doing very well on the rats . Edited February 29, 2020 by Foxpack 2 Spelling 13 Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,448 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Scentchaser said: What cross is he scentchaser I've a beagle X cocker very similar to him/her Quote Link to post
Scentchaser 48 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said: What cross is he scentchaser I've a beagle X cocker very similar to him/her He's beagles spaniel both sides tried to load a vid of him speaking but it won't let me 1 Quote Link to post
Scentchaser 48 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said: What cross is he scentchaser I've a beagle X cocker very similar to him/her English Springer Quote Link to post
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