redrob... 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 ive known borders to go at 12mts, i find that each and every one is different, some take longer to go, but if i was you i wouldnt try them at 8mts far to young, if they meet summut it could put them off for good,you say you have just got them, get to no them and them to no you, take um out bushing and all that, maybe let them watch a dig or 2 in afew months time, and dont for get to put a collar on, as has been said there just pups , if you dont mind me asking why did you choose borders, Quote Link to post
m.r1 7 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 FRANK SPENCER IS BACK, ONLY READ SOME OF THE SHIT, NOT ALL. HERES A QUESTION TO YOU GREAT WORKING TERRIER ADVISORS "WHY DO YOU WANT A TERRIER TO ENTER AN UN OCCUPIED EARTH? WATCH OTHER TERRIER! SO IF MY BITCH WATCHES MY DOG HAVE A PISS SHE WILL LEARN TO COCK HER LEG? F**KING HELL, PASS MY MEDICATION, THERE AT IT AGAIN, BORDERS, LAKKELANDS, RUSSELS, SILLYHAMS (I CAN SPELL), THERE IS NO AGE, IF YOU HAVE SENSE, MOST DONT SEEM TO HAVE, YOU WILL KNOW WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, F**K IT CANT BE BOTHERED IM OFF THE PUB TO HAVE A DIG! Quote Link to post
Guest SHOT Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 i like a lot of what you say mr1 its entertaining.. you paint a pretty picture of the game..dogs,"yourself" etc but its all romantic bollocks. Quote Link to post
Guest tawny Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 make an artificial earth and get a fox brush on a peice of string, use a ferret to get the string through then tease the pup with the brush and slowly pull it through letting the pup follow works for me one of the best ones yet. and please dont tell us how you enter a lurcher Quote Link to post
cdnhastings 23 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 FRANK SPENCER IS BACK, ONLY READ SOME OF THE SHIT, NOT ALL. HERES A QUESTION TO YOU GREAT WORKING TERRIER ADVISORS "WHY DO YOU WANT A TERRIER TO ENTER AN UN OCCUPIED EARTH? WATCH OTHER TERRIER! SO IF MY BITCH WATCHES MY DOG HAVE A PISS SHE WILL LEARN TO COCK HER LEG? F**KING HELL, PASS MY MEDICATION, THERE AT IT AGAIN, BORDERS, LAKKELANDS, RUSSELS, SILLYHAMS (I CAN SPELL), THERE IS NO AGE, IF YOU HAVE SENSE, MOST DONT SEEM TO HAVE, YOU WILL KNOW WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, F**K IT CANT BE BOTHERED IM OFF THE PUB TO HAVE A DIG! Not sure which type of new guy bothers you more? The know it all , you can't tell me anything type or the I have no idea what I'm doing , so I'm here for advise type? Maybe the admin could put up a new section for newbies asking newbie type questions so as not to ruffle your feathers as much? let the old heads who don't mind helping the new fellas out help , and all would be happy..... Quote Link to post
jrt666 1 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 i know all about working terriers but i do have a question. mr1 do you not belive that allowing a pup to watch an older dog will help to show the pup even if only a little bit what to do? im not saying that if you do let the pup do this then it will turn it into a worker because that would mean if i watched ricky hatton fight i could get in the ring and win a title(and thats just silly) as for your comment about the bitch learning to piss like a dog although funny its not realy the same thing at all is it. better make it clear im not trying to get into an argument cos like i said i know all about working terriers,just intrested to know your full veiw on what a pup can pick up from watching an older dog Quote Link to post
m.r1 7 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Hello Hastings and all the so called novice lads/girls, do not take to heart my comments if you are new to the game, we all have to learn and advice should be welcomed and you or me are never to old to learn, however, the problem with this site is there are to many idiots trying to give advice and that will do the new comers more harm. There are also to many show orientated people on here as well as antis. Its good to be a know it all, if you are a nice sympathetic kniow it all and you show empathy to the new starters, but if you are a know it all arrogant arse hole, your no good to anyone, in my opinion. Both Frank and me will offer our advice which is advice through experience, we are not teachers and certainly not the best, well Frank thinks he is the best! But since joining the site, rightly or wrongly both our aims were to expose the phonies and liars for the benefit of firstly the working terrier (all breeds) and secondly the new commers to our sport. Some times the language and blunt comments can seem offending, sorry to all who are offended by the language but the context I do not apologise for, if it offends then it is because in my eyes you are not genuine dog men/women JR666. To clarify Franks comments, hes a sleep, pissed last night, had 2 10ft digs in the ale tent to a Russell that goes back to Trump! He was with Middleton, Chapman, Mousley, Jonesy and Cloughie, all of them ended up fighting over whose dog s wwent back to Trump, mad, the lot of them! Getting a young terrier out is of the utnmost importance, from getting it used to the vehicle, the boxes, hounds, horses etc, its a package of getting the terrier accustomed to his/her future working liife, its called socialising it to its future environment, it all helps. However, work is in the terriers blood, neither me or you or anyone can put it there, most working terriers need to be held back for their own good, not encouraged, its natural, in their blood to work and this is where it becomes patheticly harder for the persons whose terriers have inferior blood in them because of past breeding methods to get them going. After the socialising period is over, peg the terrier out, he/she will learn from being pegged out and taking in the atmosphere. Let the terrier sniff the entrance, hopefully it will show an inclination it wants to go. Leave it pegged out, dig your quarry, shoot the quarry, show the young terrier the carcase, preferably in the dig on its own, if a bit nervy at being lowered in to a deep dig show the carcase on top. My personal opinion is to allow this procedure to happen when the terrier that has been dug to has been removed. Start the youngster as you mean to go on, no dutch currage of another terrier present to wind it up, on its own. After this only you can judge the maturity of your terrier, you should know your earths, their depth, stop ends etc, think for your terrier and guide it along steadily, bit like a boxer, dont oput them in with a world champion first fight. Good luck Quote Link to post
jak n meg 4 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 good sound advice m.r1 Quote Link to post
jrt666 1 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 trump cheers for the reply Quote Link to post
m.r1 7 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 i like a lot of what you say mr1 its entertaining.. you paint a pretty picture of the game..dogs,"yourself" etc but its all romantic bollocks. Romantic. youve lost me, comment "your self" Im not that pretty (not gay are you! Quote Link to post
crazy_hunter 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 ive known borders to go at 12mts, i find that each and every one is different, some take longer to go, but if i was you i wouldnt try them at 8mts far to young, if they meet summut it could put them off for good,you say you have just got them, get to no them and them to no you, take um out bushing and all that, maybe let them watch a dig or 2 in afew months time, and dont for get to put a collar on, as has been said there just pups , if you dont mind me asking why did you choose borders, had russell's and pats just thought i'd try border's Quote Link to post
crazy_hunter 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hello Hastings and all the so called novice lads/girls, do not take to heart my comments if you are new to the game, we all have to learn and advice should be welcomed and you or me are never to old to learn, however, the problem with this site is there are to many idiots trying to give advice and that will do the new comers more harm. There are also to many show orientated people on here as well as antis. Its good to be a know it all, if you are a nice sympathetic kniow it all and you show empathy to the new starters, but if you are a know it all arrogant arse hole, your no good to anyone, in my opinion. Both Frank and me will offer our advice which is advice through experience, we are not teachers and certainly not the best, well Frank thinks he is the best! But since joining the site, rightly or wrongly both our aims were to expose the phonies and liars for the benefit of firstly the working terrier (all breeds) and secondly the new commers to our sport. Some times the language and blunt comments can seem offending, sorry to all who are offended by the language but the context I do not apologise for, if it offends then it is because in my eyes you are not genuine dog men/women JR666. To clarify Franks comments, hes a sleep, pissed last night, had 2 10ft digs in the ale tent to a Russell that goes back to Trump! He was with Middleton, Chapman, Mousley, Jonesy and Cloughie, all of them ended up fighting over whose dog s wwent back to Trump, mad, the lot of them! Getting a young terrier out is of the utnmost importance, from getting it used to the vehicle, the boxes, hounds, horses etc, its a package of getting the terrier accustomed to his/her future working liife, its called socialising it to its future environment, it all helps. However, work is in the terriers blood, neither me or you or anyone can put it there, most working terriers need to be held back for their own good, not encouraged, its natural, in their blood to work and this is where it becomes patheticly harder for the persons whose terriers have inferior blood in them because of past breeding methods to get them going. After the socialising period is over, peg the terrier out, he/she will learn from being pegged out and taking in the atmosphere. Let the terrier sniff the entrance, hopefully it will show an inclination it wants to go. Leave it pegged out, dig your quarry, shoot the quarry, show the young terrier the carcase, preferably in the dig on its own, if a bit nervy at being lowered in to a deep dig show the carcase on top. My personal opinion is to allow this procedure to happen when the terrier that has been dug to has been removed. Start the youngster as you mean to go on, no dutch currage of another terrier present to wind it up, on its own. After this only you can judge the maturity of your terrier, you should know your earths, their depth, stop ends etc, think for your terrier and guide it along steadily, bit like a boxer, dont oput them in with a world champion first fight. Good luck thank's for advice must be the only sound guy on here much appreciated Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Borders that have been bred from the right stuff have been as easy to enter as any other terrier a good terrier is a good terrier what ever the breed but crap is crap. Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hello Hastings and all the so called novice lads/girls, do not take to heart my comments if you are new to the game, we all have to learn and advice should be welcomed and you or me are never to old to learn, however, the problem with this site is there are to many idiots trying to give advice and that will do the new comers more harm. There are also to many show orientated people on here as well as antis. Its good to be a know it all, if you are a nice sympathetic kniow it all and you show empathy to the new starters, but if you are a know it all arrogant arse hole, your no good to anyone, in my opinion. Both Frank and me will offer our advice which is advice through experience, we are not teachers and certainly not the best, well Frank thinks he is the best! But since joining the site, rightly or wrongly both our aims were to expose the phonies and liars for the benefit of firstly the working terrier (all breeds) and secondly the new commers to our sport. Some times the language and blunt comments can seem offending, sorry to all who are offended by the language but the context I do not apologise for, if it offends then it is because in my eyes you are not genuine dog men/women JR666. To clarify Franks comments, hes a sleep, pissed last night, had 2 10ft digs in the ale tent to a Russell that goes back to Trump! He was with Middleton, Chapman, Mousley, Jonesy and Cloughie, all of them ended up fighting over whose dog s wwent back to Trump, mad, the lot of them! Getting a young terrier out is of the utnmost importance, from getting it used to the vehicle, the boxes, hounds, horses etc, its a package of getting the terrier accustomed to his/her future working liife, its called socialising it to its future environment, it all helps. However, work is in the terriers blood, neither me or you or anyone can put it there, most working terriers need to be held back for their own good, not encouraged, its natural, in their blood to work and this is where it becomes patheticly harder for the persons whose terriers have inferior blood in them because of past breeding methods to get them going. After the socialising period is over, peg the terrier out, he/she will learn from being pegged out and taking in the atmosphere. Let the terrier sniff the entrance, hopefully it will show an inclination it wants to go. Leave it pegged out, dig your quarry, shoot the quarry, show the young terrier the carcase, preferably in the dig on its own, if a bit nervy at being lowered in to a deep dig show the carcase on top. My personal opinion is to allow this procedure to happen when the terrier that has been dug to has been removed. Start the youngster as you mean to go on, no dutch currage of another terrier present to wind it up, on its own. After this only you can judge the maturity of your terrier, you should know your earths, their depth, stop ends etc, think for your terrier and guide it along steadily, bit like a boxer, dont oput them in with a world champion first fight. Good luck in a roundabout way well said,mark Quote Link to post
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