Binoculars

[RossR 14]

Anyone had any experience with the hawke ones of any kind? wanting ziess ones but someone said that the hawke ones are just about as clear and about 3X less the price! wantong them for mainly deer stalking as starting to do a lot more! anyone recommend them? cheers

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Not hawk but i got 7x 30 russian military off ebay. The are zeiss lens. Waterproof casing

[the scudd 82]

hi any hawk optics iv,e ever looked through were very dissapointing, you could do worse than buy the swarovski bins for sale on here, hard to beat for clarity and there warranty is second to none

[Sussex Stalker 7]

Have alook at Kahles. Have had a pair for a couple of years now, very good in low light conditions which is where you need them to work. Even very cheap ones look ok in the shop during the day.

 

Kev

[hutchey 147]

I tried swaros but my hawkers look just as good to me. I guess it depends on your eyes, conditions etc

[sussex 5,777]

I tried swaros but my hawkers look just as good to me. I guess it depends on your eyes, conditions etc

 

Early morning ...low light ... ..that's were the difference in price comes in H..

 

[RossR 14]

 

I tried swaros but my hawkers look just as good to me. I guess it depends on your eyes, conditions etc

 

Early morning ...low light ... ..that's were the difference in price comes in H..

 

 

completely agree just never had the hawkes so was wondering if they are good in low light cnditions

[sussex 5,777]

Ross , over the years I've had or tried most of the decent makes of binoculars on the market & while some are very good value for money the three that stand out are Swarovski , Ziess & Leupold...all expensive , but quality..my choice are the swaro's ..great optics with brilliant backup ..

[RossR 14]

Ross , over the years I've had or tried most of the decent makes of binoculars on the market & while some are very good value for money the three that stand out are Swarovski , Ziess & Leupold...all expensive , but quality..my choice are the swaro's ..great optics with brilliant backup ..

the only problem is the price, leica are meant to be a good binocular ive heard

[Pink or stink 162]

I never tire of responding to these threads in the hope someone gets something out of it. I have had every derivative of the Hawke ED range; Prosallks, Sapphires and Frontiers. I have also very recently had my Swarovisions and Zeiss Dialyts. The Hawkes will do everything the Alphas will and that includes low-light stalking. Those who argue that the difference is noticeable in low light haven't compared the sets next to each other in exactly the same conditions. Don't run away with the idea that the more expensive bin will outperform the more reasonable costing bins on the market all the time, any discernible difference will be around 2-3% at most and that's if you can tell at all . Most of my viewing is done around estuaries where bird recognition is crucial. If you live anywhere near a WWT then a company called In-Focus tend to have a viewing day where you can try all sorts of bins and scopes at your leisure; this will give you some idea of what suits you best.

 

I sold my Swaro's for £1600 to a guy on BBS and he travelled down from Scotland to pick them up. He spent more time looking through my Frontier 8 x 43 and he bought them at the same time.

[seprim 32]

Hi RossR

If my swaro scope beside my hawke scope is anything to go by, I would save and buy the best i could afford, even if it took 3 months or 6 months ( I saved for and bought a second hand swaro scope for my .243 rifle, and when i can afford it I will pass that one on to my rabbit rifle and get an even better/newer/higher mag one for deer)

I (in slight contradiction to Pink) think that the swaros leicas zeiss et al are a darn site better, clearer, less strain on the eyeballs. But you should definitely buy your bins in winter, when the light is poor, and compare the cheapest in the shop, with the medium and also the shop recommended ones and also the top ones to see for yourself. I say do this in winter only as a tip, because if you look out the window on a clear sunny day the difference if negligible, however if you do this when its dark/low light the difference will be easier to tell.

I have recently looked through some ex military eastern european bins that were made by zeiss or schmitt n bender and they were excellent, yet 1/4 of the price of the A list.

best of luck to you on your hunt!

Andrew

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Opticron

[Pink or stink 162]

Some good points seprim but you can't compare a Swaro riflescope with a Hawke riflescope regardless of the models, they are completely different beasts. Binoculars however, with comparable ED glass bridge the gap to what I believe are negligible returns for the outlay. As you rightly say, try them out in real world conditions but don't get hung up on the badge.

[byron 1,179]

vortex..

[marrajack 1]

Need to try them out mate

My eyes do not suit Leica - or S&b scopes, both are obviously fantastic products.

I have tried a few pairs out and Hawke - vortex minox are very good bins .- for first and last light Ziess and Swaro are the best for my eyes and deliver colours earlier and later than other optics