South hams hunter 8,926 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 did they try recreate the ebd , not so long back, making them taller+agile, think read that some where.But the KC wont accept the new ebd . ? is that right .? they have the Victorian bulldog but I'm not sure its recognised but you can see why because they have no real standard, they're all shapes and sizes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 did they try recreate the ebd , not so long back, making them taller+agile, think read that some where.But the KC wont accept the new ebd . ? is that right .? they have the Victorian bulldog but I'm not sure its recognised but you can see why because they have no real standard, they're all shapes and sizesthey don't breed to recreate it, it's alive and well in the USA aka apbt, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,926 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I'm not referring to the apbt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 the pitbull terrier is not the same dog as our olde English bulldog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Dogs chasing a bear that's looking for an escape and even it did fight back it'll be out of fear. Not testing gameness IMO as the dogs can sense the fear rather than another animal that wants to be there. As for the bulldogs maybe someone at the start had good intentions. All I see now is every peddler who can no longer flog red noses as they flooded the market move into them. They are hardly breeding better dogs its just bulldogs with fancy colours or abit more leg. If your going to try being back the bulldog surely best thing would be to test the dogs. Give em a task like they was bred for and hope to produce offspring which are the best at that. That way others will use the dogs and you won't have to worry about all your hard work dying out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 the pitbull terrier is not the same dog as our olde English bulldog.it be the closest thing alive to the original bulldog, more than the modern bulldog, just cross bulldog with apbt n start from there, if anybody ever seen one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,269 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Dogs chasing a bear that's looking for an escape and even it did fight back it'll be out of fear. Not testing gameness IMO as the dogs can sense the fear rather than another animal that wants to be there. Bang on..............does a 7 stone weakling bashing up a 20 stone giant show gameness......of course it doesnt if the giant didnt even want to be there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,269 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 the pitbull terrier is not the same dog as our olde English bulldog.it be the closest thing alive to the original bulldog, more than the modern bulldog, just cross bulldog with apbt n start from there, if anybody ever seen one? Ive seen a well bred Pit Bull crossed with a Victorian Bulldog it was a useless lump of shit that just barked a lot................its the old teaspoon of dog shit in a gallon drum of ice cream analogy......only in this case a f****n great big shovel full !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Dogs chasing a bear that's looking for an escape and even it did fight back it'll be out of fear. Not testing gameness IMO as the dogs can sense the fear rather than another animal that wants to be there. Bang on..............does a 7 stone weakling bashing up a 20 stone giant show gameness......of course it doesnt if the giant didnt even want to be there. I will let you know after the fishing comp when clipo has finished with you :laugh: .......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 i'm not sure on this gnasher, yokel and one or two will know more but didn't the terrier bring the gamesness and not the bulldog? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,966 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 the pitbull terrier is not the same dog as our olde English bulldog.it be the closest thing alive to the original bulldog, more than the modern bulldog, just cross bulldog with apbt n start from there, if anybody ever seen one? Ive seen a well bred Pit Bull crossed with a Victorian Bulldog it was a useless lump of shit that just barked a lot................its the old teaspoon of dog shit in a gallon drum of ice cream analogy......only in this case a f****n great big shovel full !! didn't know they x pits to them gnash , they x few into abds (Heinz, scott) and them don't seem to bad as abd go, more agile fitter than most abd, but they do look more pit looking than other abds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,926 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Do you search apbt gnasher? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,926 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 the pitbull terrier is not the same dog as our olde English bulldog.it be the closest thing alive to the original bulldog, more than the modern bulldog, just cross bulldog with apbt n start from there, if anybody ever seen one? Ive seen a well bred Pit Bull crossed with a Victorian Bulldog it was a useless lump of shit that just barked a lot................its the old teaspoon of dog shit in a gallon drum of ice cream analogy......only in this case a f****n great big shovel full !! doesn't mean it wouldn't have been useless as a caeser dog or as something else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 comparing a pitbull with an olde (modern) English bulldog is like comparing a Caucasian shepherd dog to a little german shepherd. Not fit to tie its laces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,926 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Re read it kd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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