Dave6592 51 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/saluki-dog-levenhulme-jeremy-sutton-7074417http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/saluki-dog-jeremy-sutton-levenshulme-7074439 Just seen this in the M.E.N and the woman is complaining about the punishment the man received for HER child approaching his dog whilst on the lead. Yes he should have warned the child but said he was distracted as other children were petting his other dog at the same time. He's now resigned from his post, been given £1500 worth of fines and the dog has to be muzzled and he can't walk the dog in the same area as the boy. It also annoys me how the journo has made a point about it being a 'hunting breed' as if that's got anything to do with the child approaching it. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I think that's shit on the old fella. My daughter is dog mad. Loves them. All shapes and sizes and has no fear. BUT she has been taught from day one NEVER to approach or stroke a strange dog without me speaking to the owner. If she did and got bit then I would feel responsible and feel like I had failed as a parent. 5 Quote Link to post
Dave6592 51 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I think that's shit on the old fella. My daughter is dog mad. Loves them. All shapes and sizes and has no fear. BUT she has been taught from day one NEVER to approach or stroke a strange dog without me speaking to the owner. If she did and got bit then I would feel responsible and feel like I had failed as a parent. Exactly, like you say the parent or the kid should have asked the man first whether the dogs ok to stroke, if he says yes and the kid gets bit then fair enough it's his responsibility. Some dogs just don't appreciate strangers coming up to them, especially kids who may make sudden movements towards the dog. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Whilst I agree the parent should be responsible for the child ,I think dog owner have to take some responsibility if there dog bites a kids face in a public place. My niece got bit the weekend and part of her nose was ripped off and skin grafts have had to be done.the dog,a shar pei has been pts, I think muzzling a dog that's damaged a child's face is not a lot to ask. And he should be thankful the dog hasn't been destroyed,or he wasn't filled in by the lads dad,lol 2 Quote Link to post
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 the mother was just as much at fault as anyone else... sounds as though shes taught her child absolutely nothing about manners or approaching strange dogs... she was in charge of the child its not a dog owners responsibility to referee other peoples brats.. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,858 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Whilst I agree the parent should be responsible for the child ,I think dog owner have to take some responsibility if there dog bites a kids face in a public place. My niece got bit the weekend and part of her nose was ripped off and skin grafts have had to be done.the dog,a shar pei has been pts, I think muzzling a dog that's damaged a child's face is not a lot to ask. And he should be thankful the dog hasn't been destroyed,or he wasn't filled in by the lads dad,lol spot on Roy , if the dog had bitten my son face, I prob booted it there+then bust hit ribs's or in the head , then prob been done by the police for excessive force . I get it all the while with my young dog Buck , when I am out with him, because of his size+ looks.I know he likes people+dogs , and wont hurt either when loose.But I have to get him back on the lead when he approaches people .I had it the other day got both dog loose in the lane, when a family mom+dad kids and looked like there grand parents, were walking towards me.Bryn come right back ,but Buck just still and starred at them. the wife+and kids were very frightened I could see that, so called him with bit few treats that he likes lol. the old man thanks me for putting him on the lead as apart from him the rest are scared of dogs he said, and asked if was a guard dog lol, I said no loves people but if a fox / deer tried to break in my house he have them the old man liked that lol. sometimes you do bump into people+kids when the dogs are loose but I do try to keep them on the lead if I can , a child face is worth a lot more than any feckin dog 3 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) I’d of killed the dog there and then, anyone who has a child would know what I mean. If I owned a dog that showed the slightest aggression to children it would be muzzled in public after all we can’t see round corners etc so we never know if a kid is about to run around the corner straight into us etc. kids will be kids it's up to us as adults to protect them be it from a snappy dog or a child molester. Anyone who feels the child or even the mother, as said kids will be kids and at times do otherwise than told, is to blame is either sick or isn't yet mature, at least not to have had children. I mean in the balance a child against a dog???? If it was an out of the blue event then a real shame but….. Edited May 6, 2014 by sandymere 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 ANY dog can bite. No matter how well you think you know the dog. So should all dogs be muzzled all of the time because people can't control their kids and teach them to respect dogs? 2 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 if it was one of mine and it bit a kid it would be pts kids fault or not 2 Quote Link to post
harddigging 42 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 im with desert bred if i had a dog bite a kid provocted or not id be first to put it down that kid might be a horrible uncontrolable little b*****d but he still gonna have the physical an mental scares for the rest off his years, no dog is above a childs well being Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 strange old world we live in now, in days gone by a dog that bit a child, would be put to sleep, thats when we used to pay 7/6 pence = 7shillings and sixpence for a dog licence, 37and and half pence , kept dogs all my days, iwould not keep a lurcher, that would bite a child, yard dog is different they there to protect your property, but you can be in serious trouble if it worries a child, after all a dog is only a dog, for Fsake, as said if it was your little girl, You would destroy the useless thing, get a grip lads for Fsake, give your heids a shake, 3 Quote Link to post
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) couldn't have put it better border lad Edited May 6, 2014 by blackmaggie 1 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Like I said in my post I agree a parent should take SOME responsibility. But if a dog is likely to bite,maybe he shouldn't take a dog into those situations.if my dog bit a child regardless if they was a brat or not I'd put to sleep unless the dog was being constantly teased or there was other mitigating circumstances. But if someone walks a dog that bites publicly,he has to man up and face the music. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) ANY dog can bite. No matter how well you think you know the dog. So should all dogs be muzzled all of the time because people can't control their kids and teach them to respect dogs? of course any dog can bite,but if a dog bites and maimes a child pts full stop,no ifs no buts,pts most stable dogs would give warning of their aggression,a growl,or mouth the child,but if a child's face needs surgery,I think it kind of oversteps the mark somewhat Edited May 6, 2014 by roybo Quote Link to post
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) gem buts hes responsible for his dog biting a kid he had other kids stroking his other dog so why wouldn't a kid want to stroke it as well and how to do you know that kid a brat end of the day he should of said please don't stroke the dog and walked the other way or muzzled it has hes in a public place and not allowed kids near it or take it were theres no kids and he should of got that dog pts because if it was mine it would of been done asap no dog is worth more than a kids face Edited May 6, 2014 by blackmaggie 1 Quote Link to post
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