wirral countryman 2,110 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) you can ask for any case to be commited to the crown correct. HERAY atleast someone knows what there talking about ,, Edited May 11, 2014 by wirral countryman 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 you can ask for any case to be commited to the crown correct. HERAY atleast someone knows what there talking about Andy, I never said you can't ask, but you will not be heard in a Crown, simple, because the case is a minor offence, sentences of a serious nature carrying a penalty of more than 12months in jail go to crown, your cocky nature should go down well with the jury or judge or wherever you end up, remember 1 piece of advice and that's the best liar always wins in court and there is no such thing as "british justice", WM Perhaps if you read the thread tidy instead of trying to out "gangsta" each other you'd realise he's not up in court. 2 Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Crown courts for offences that hold a 5k plus fines and 6 months or more sentence Edited May 10, 2014 by Giro 1 Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 you can ask for any case to be commited to the crown correct. Incorrect. If you think a judge will sit and let a jury decide if you are guilty or not of stealing a chocolate bar you are very much mistaken.. Like I've said its a summary only offence so it can't be committed to crown. The only way it can end up in crown is if you are found guilty in mags then appeal your conviction / or there are other more serious offences that you have been charged with... 2 Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 a judge has no say if you elect for jury trial its enshrined in british law. Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I know I worded that wrong. How about, you could not be tried for the theft of a chocolate bar in a crown court because it would be a summary offence. Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 you can ask for any case to be commited to the crown correct. HERAY atleast someone knows what there talking about Andy, I never said you can't ask, but you will not be heard in a Crown, simple, because the case is a minor offence, sentences of a serious nature carrying a penalty of more than 12months in jail go to crown, your cocky nature should go down well with the jury or judge or wherever you end up, remember 1 piece of advice and that's the best liar always wins in court and there is no such thing as "british justice", WM Perhaps if you read the thread tidy instead of trying to out "gangsta" each other you'd realise he's not up in court. Almost right Wirral, but sentencing wise it goes to crown for anything over 6 months not 12...although you can have a trial in magistrates and then be committed to crown just for sentencing if the mags think you deserve more than the maximum 6 months they can give you... 1 Quote Link to post
andy97 209 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 you can ask for any case to be commited to the crowncorrect. HERAY atleast someone knows what there talking aboutAndy, I never said you can't ask, but you will not be heard in a Crown, simple, because the case is a minor offence, sentences of a serious nature carrying a penalty of more than 12months in jail go to crown, your cocky nature should go down well with the jury or judge or wherever you end up, remember 1 piece of advice and that's the best liar always wins in court and there is no such thing as "british justice", WMPerhaps if you read the thread tidy instead of trying to out "gangsta" each other you'd realise he's not up in court. Almost right Wirral, but sentencing wise it goes to crown for anything over 6 months not 12...although you can have a trial in magistrates and then be committed to crown just for sentencing if the mags think you deserve more than the maximum 6 months they can give you... look mate youve not bin right about anything youve posted mate trial in madj very rare to get a proper jury you get a bench any charge can be heard by the crown Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I've not been wrong about anything. You obviously don't read my posts properly, not once have I said you get a jury trial in a magistrates. Summary offences will not have a trial in crown court. This is basic stuff. All offences relating to the hunting act are summary only. Go on the CPS website, search "hunting with dogs". Its all there. 3 Quote Link to post
andy97 209 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I've not been wrong about anything. You obviously don't read my posts properly, not once have I said you get a jury trial in a magistrates. Summary offences will not have a trial in crown court. This is basic stuff. All offences relating to the hunting act are summary only. Go on the CPS website, search "hunting with dogs". Its all there. Martin Bradley (29) of 88 Charford Road, Charford, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire and Darren Hattersley (27) of 95 Hurlfield Road, Gleadlass, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, were both given 6 months and made to pay costs of £500 by Redditch magistrates on 9/2/96. They were also both banned from keeping dogs for 5 years. They admitted cruelty to a badger, attempting to take a badger and charges of putting their terriers at risk. They were caught digging a badger sett. After they realised they were being watched by the police, they ran off leaving their terriers at the sett. The police arrested both of them nearby. A dead badger cub was found at the sett along with their 5 terriers, some of which had facial injuries. Martin Bradley also has a previous conviction for attempting to take a badger dating back to February 1987, he was found guilty of digging for badgers. After an appeal at Worcester Crown Court he was fined £200. this if just a few of many Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Exactly as I said, it only goes to crown if you are found guilty at magistrates and appeal your conviction! Not only can't you read, but you also lack the ability to use any punctuation. I wouldn't expect you to know anything about our judicial system, except how to plead guilty, lol. I'll leave it at that. All the best to you mate. 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Thank feck phew lol Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I've not been wrong about anything. You obviously don't read my posts properly, not once have I said you get a jury trial in a magistrates. Summary offences will not have a trial in crown court. This is basic stuff. All offences relating to the hunting act are summary only. Go on the CPS website, search "hunting with dogs". Its all there. Martin Bradley (29) of 88 Charford Road, Charford, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire and Darren Hattersley (27) of 95 Hurlfield Road, Gleadlass, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, were both given 6 months and made to pay costs of £500 by Redditch magistrates on 9/2/96. They were also both banned from keeping dogs for 5 years. They admitted cruelty to a badger, attempting to take a badger and charges of putting their terriers at risk. They were caught digging a badger sett. After they realised they were being watched by the police, they ran off leaving their terriers at the sett. The police arrested both of them nearby. A dead badger cub was found at the sett along with their 5 terriers, some of which had facial injuries. Martin Bradley also has a previous conviction for attempting to take a badger dating back to February 1987, he was found guilty of digging for badgers. After an appeal at Worcester Crown Court he was fined £200.this if just a few of many Them lads must be pleased having their addresses posted on here Quote Link to post
lamping-lad 160 Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Been back today, was handed further charge sheets before we went in saying we're charged with entering land (tresspass) with poaching equipment in pusuit of taking or destroying game. When we got in the court Room they said the scrapping the old charges and pursuing the new ones then asked us how we plead, we all went not guilty and have to go back on sept 15th. What a load of bollocks Edited May 30, 2014 by lamping-lad Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 fairly dragging that out aint they... Quote Link to post
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