Hare Coursing

[andy97 209]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can prove that a police officer has lied to a court of law then they would end up in very serious trouble

 

As always, the difficulty is in proving anything

 

There are liars and cheats in all walks of life; some find excuses for it, others don't bother.

 

All unimportant really, as we do not know all the facts.

Never mentioned lying to a court of law mate. We were talking about lying to us. To prompt a confession.

 

People including yourself have said the police aren't allowed to lie. Suggesting that they don't.

 

But they do

Actually, no

 

Go back and read what I've written properly

 

Police officers are as capable and willing to lie as anyone else. The thing is, if they get caught out, they are in proportionally more trouble than anyone else . Ever heard the term 'breech of trust'?

 

The fact that a police officer may lie (indirectly, or directly) 'off the record' in order to convince a suspect that it's in their best interests to confess, has never been disputed by me.

 

However, if it can be proven that a police officer has fabricated evidence, or lied while making a statement, then it's a stretch on Rule 43 for them

 

We can all speculate about the when, where, if's and why's in this case as much as we please, but unless the OP wants to furnish us with all the relevant facts then it is pretty pointless.

 

What do I mean?

 

Well, as others have suggested, if this is a 'hot' area, and the OP has any history with the police, then the chances are they will go for it and chuck some serious resources at establishing proof.

 

If, on the other hand, the OP was on permission, lamping rabbits, and the evidence of illegality is ambiguous, then I doubt it will go too far.

 

Happily, we don't have 'trial by media' in this country. Facts are put before a court and a decision is made based on those facts.

I need a lie down after reading that

 

So we agree the police are lying b*****ds? Ok great. Cheers.

 

Lol.

that there lying fcukers wasnt disputed but lieing about evidence they have in interview was which they carnt do or they will be no case to answer to if your brief and yourself are clued up or say they put him in the van and said youve been fimed or other nonsence on tape it goes away

It'a raining outside. You wanna ring your brief and check? Lol

was simply to prove a point that few give advice and dont really no what there talking about i was just checking it as id hate for someone to get a charge when it could have been avoided n obviously your one of them giving bad info out

Yeh I gave out false info, sorry lads.

 

The police will never lie to you.

 

Definitely not in an interview.

 

They will never say they've got evidence that they haven't.

 

And the hunting act will be overturned with immediate effect

 

whatever GAS ill leave it at that ive proved my point of police are not allowed to put evidence to you that they havnt got simple as that and if they do case gone implying and saying is to totaly different thing which only a fool would fall for and i never said they carnt lie to you they just carnt do it on tape with evidence anyway im done

Edited May 7, 2014 by andy97

[fitchet 788]

A couple of lads I know quite well were arrested for walking along a road with a lamp and an 8th month old pup. I kid you not the way the police drove up it was like they were arresting a terrorist not a couple of teenagers. They've been back to court a couple of times and it's still not over. Worst bit is this was about 40 yards from there parents property and the field running alongside the road they were on they had full permission to be in !

[jimmy1982 153]

A couple of lads I know quite well were arrested for walking along a road with a lamp and an 8th month old pup. I kid you not the way the police drove up it was like they were arresting a terrorist not a couple of teenagers. They've been back to court a couple of times and it's still not over. Worst bit is this was about 40 yards from there parents property and the field running alongside the road they were on they had full permission to be in !

I cant belive they are locking lads up for just walking a dog and having a lamp. And locking you up for going equipped with a dog like you would with a screw driver to go grafting lol proper c**ts

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can prove that a police officer has lied to a court of law then they would end up in very serious trouble

 

As always, the difficulty is in proving anything

 

There are liars and cheats in all walks of life; some find excuses for it, others don't bother.

 

All unimportant really, as we do not know all the facts.

Never mentioned lying to a court of law mate. We were talking about lying to us. To prompt a confession.

 

People including yourself have said the police aren't allowed to lie. Suggesting that they don't.

 

But they do

Actually, no

 

Go back and read what I've written properly

 

Police officers are as capable and willing to lie as anyone else. The thing is, if they get caught out, they are in proportionally more trouble than anyone else . Ever heard the term 'breech of trust'?

 

The fact that a police officer may lie (indirectly, or directly) 'off the record' in order to convince a suspect that it's in their best interests to confess, has never been disputed by me.

 

However, if it can be proven that a police officer has fabricated evidence, or lied while making a statement, then it's a stretch on Rule 43 for them

 

We can all speculate about the when, where, if's and why's in this case as much as we please, but unless the OP wants to furnish us with all the relevant facts then it is pretty pointless.

 

What do I mean?

 

Well, as others have suggested, if this is a 'hot' area, and the OP has any history with the police, then the chances are they will go for it and chuck some serious resources at establishing proof.

 

If, on the other hand, the OP was on permission, lamping rabbits, and the evidence of illegality is ambiguous, then I doubt it will go too far.

 

Happily, we don't have 'trial by media' in this country. Facts are put before a court and a decision is made based on those facts.

I need a lie down after reading that

 

So we agree the police are lying b*****ds? Ok great. Cheers.

 

Lol.

that there lying fcukers wasnt disputed but lieing about evidence they have in interview was which they carnt do or they will be no case to answer to if your brief and yourself are clued up or say they put him in the van and said youve been fimed or other nonsence on tape it goes away

It'a raining outside. You wanna ring your brief and check? Lol

was simply to prove a point that few give advice and dont really no what there talking about i was just checking it as id hate for someone to get a charge when it could have been avoided n obviously your one of them giving bad info out

Yeh I gave out false info, sorry lads.

 

The police will never lie to you.

 

Definitely not in an interview.

 

They will never say they've got evidence that they haven't.

 

And the hunting act will be overturned with immediate effect

 

whatever GAS ill leave it at that ive proved my point of police are not allowed to put evidence to you that they havnt got simple as that and if they do case gone implying and saying is to totaly different thing which only a fool would fall for and i never said they carnt lie to you they just carnt do it on tape with evidence anyway im done

 

You've not proved a thing

[andy97 209]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can prove that a police officer has lied to a court of law then they would end up in very serious trouble

 

As always, the difficulty is in proving anything

 

There are liars and cheats in all walks of life; some find excuses for it, others don't bother.

 

All unimportant really, as we do not know all the facts.

Never mentioned lying to a court of law mate. We were talking about lying to us. To prompt a confession.

 

People including yourself have said the police aren't allowed to lie. Suggesting that they don't.

 

But they do

Actually, no

 

Go back and read what I've written properly

 

Police officers are as capable and willing to lie as anyone else. The thing is, if they get caught out, they are in proportionally more trouble than anyone else . Ever heard the term 'breech of trust'?

 

The fact that a police officer may lie (indirectly, or directly) 'off the record' in order to convince a suspect that it's in their best interests to confess, has never been disputed by me.

 

However, if it can be proven that a police officer has fabricated evidence, or lied while making a statement, then it's a stretch on Rule 43 for them

 

We can all speculate about the when, where, if's and why's in this case as much as we please, but unless the OP wants to furnish us with all the relevant facts then it is pretty pointless.

 

What do I mean?

 

Well, as others have suggested, if this is a 'hot' area, and the OP has any history with the police, then the chances are they will go for it and chuck some serious resources at establishing proof.

 

If, on the other hand, the OP was on permission, lamping rabbits, and the evidence of illegality is ambiguous, then I doubt it will go too far.

 

Happily, we don't have 'trial by media' in this country. Facts are put before a court and a decision is made based on those facts.

I need a lie down after reading that

 

So we agree the police are lying b*****ds? Ok great. Cheers.

 

Lol.

that there lying fcukers wasnt disputed but lieing about evidence they have in interview was which they carnt do or they will be no case to answer to if your brief and yourself are clued up or say they put him in the van and said youve been fimed or other nonsence on tape it goes away

It'a raining outside. You wanna ring your brief and check? Lol

was simply to prove a point that few give advice and dont really no what there talking about i was just checking it as id hate for someone to get a charge when it could have been avoided n obviously your one of them giving bad info out

Yeh I gave out false info, sorry lads.

 

The police will never lie to you.

 

Definitely not in an interview.

 

They will never say they've got evidence that they haven't.

 

And the hunting act will be overturned with immediate effect

 

whatever GAS ill leave it at that ive proved my point of police are not allowed to put evidence to you that they havnt got simple as that and if they do case gone implying and saying is to totaly different thing which only a fool would fall for and i never said they carnt lie to you they just carnt do it on tape with evidence anyway im done

 

You've not proved a thing

 

look pal just because you were wrong about something doesnt matter mate everyone makes mistakes

[mule1943 291]

a hare

[mule1943 291]

love these fairy tales

[Allan.A 27]

 

Think I may need to look at getting myself an old traditional style gate net. Nice light weight and easy to fit inside my jacket. To be carried at all times when out with the dog. You know, in case the opportunity should ever arise whilst out lamping rabbits.

i thinks it law you can't net hares at night

I could be wrong but I'm prity sure that's wrong. Anyone else have any input on this?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

You've proved f**k all Andy pal. You've proved you can ring a brief and believe the shit they spout.

 

It's already been said that police can/will/do lie on tape in an interview. Someone else said it earlier.

 

They tell lads they've got CCTV or Fingerprints and then it goes missing later on.

 

Not sure what the debate is any more? You've proved nothing though.

[fitchet 788]

 

A couple of lads I know quite well were arrested for walking along a road with a lamp and an 8th month old pup. I kid you not the way the police drove up it was like they were arresting a terrorist not a couple of teenagers. They've been back to court a couple of times and it's still not over. Worst bit is this was about 40 yards from there parents property and the field running alongside the road they were on they had full permission to be in !

I cant belive they are locking lads up for just walking a dog and having a lamp. And locking you up for going equipped with a dog like you would with a screw driver to go grafting lol proper c**ts

Funnily enough that's what it said on the charge sheet I saw going equipped with poaching equipment. Any body who doubts this have a look at the Newbury weekly news.

[jimmy1982 153]

No comment in interview all the way dont say f**k all thats the best way let them do the work. Court will laugh it out two lads walking there dog at night on a public side walk. I cant belive on there first hearing at court they didn't get this thrown out. Have your two mates fitchet admitted to going out lamping and was on there way home. You see some lads say or were only hunting rabbits. Thinking that this is cushty and the f***ing coppers wont do them for it lol. Cause they will If you was a cop what would you do go to a call out where two lads are walking some fields with a lamp or go looking for somebody grafting thats guna be on there toes round the estates. Easy work for the c**ts looking for two lads with a bright light.

Edited May 7, 2014 by jimmy1982

[fitchet 788]

No comment in interview all the way dont say f**k all thats the best way let them do the work. Court will laugh it out two lads walking there dog at night on a public side walk. I cant belive on there first hearing at court they didn't get this thrown out. Have your two mates fitchet admitted to going out lamping and was on there way home. You see some lads say or were only hunting rabbits. Thinking that this is cushty and the f*****g coppers wont do them for it lol. Cause they will If you was a cop what would you do go to a call out where two lads are walking some fields with a lamp or go looking for somebody grafting thats guna be on there toes round the estates. Easy work for the c**ts looking for two lads with a bright light.

They haven't admitted anything at all mate as far as I know. Lot of young lads getting out of running dogs this year due to hassle from police these days even if you got permission.

[andy97 209]

You've proved f**k all Andy pal. You've proved you can ring a brief and believe the shit they spout.

 

It's already been said that police can/will/do lie on tape in an interview. Someone else said it earlier.

 

They tell lads they've got CCTV or Fingerprints and then it goes missing later on.

 

Not sure what the debate is any more? You've proved nothing though.

whatever GAS and if evidence goes missing the case collapses in court anyway with a change of plea donut

[jimmy1982 153]

The f***ing law can kiss my hairy arse if they think all these tactics there doing will stop lads like me hunting like f**k mush.

Edited May 8, 2014 by jimmy1982

[zigzag dan 784]

If I was walking an overweight Labrador across a field near my house and had a torch to help me see where I was going , I can be done for lamping ? Well I might as well take the lamp and lurcher then !