mushroom 12,827 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777272/RSPCA-stop-trying-prosecute-fox-hunters-Inquiry-tells-charity-rethink-taking-animal-cruelty-cases-court.html 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Well the first day in court didn't go 100% as planed , the police tried to blame the rspca for taking the dogs and told the court they didn't take or have them ,they argued it out and it was found the rspca have no legal powers what so ever , they found it was all down to the police . but they decided to adjure the findings till a later day , now we no who to start legal action against for the death , neglect and cruelty over my sons dogs , will keep every one informed 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,827 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Good man Dy this has to prove once and for all what shits the Arsepca are mate 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Good man Dy this has to prove once and for all what shits the Arsepca are mate The police tried to make out the rspca have powers stating that an inspector has the power from the local council till the barrister put them right the rspca have NO POWERS WHAT SO EVER The powers are for local council inspectors not rspca so if they ever turn up at any ones door tell them to go away if they don't go use force to evict the scum 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 So, let me get this straight as I read your post, The police not the RSPCA are the people responsible for the death of the dog as they are the ones who took your dogs? So you now have to go after the police? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 So, let me get this straight as I read your post, The police not the RSPCA are the people responsible for the death of the dog as they are the ones who took your dogs? So you now have to go after the police? TC No the police are the ones that have been declared the ones who have sized the dogs who passed them on to the rspca for safe keeping which they have failed to do so under the 2006 welfare act so both are responsible they will find that they are subject to privet prosecutions as both party's have failed to provide adequate care and safety for the animals 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 So, let me get this straight as I read your post, The police not the RSPCA are the people responsible for the death of the dog as they are the ones who took your dogs? So you now have to go after the police? TC No the police are the ones that have been declared the ones who have sized the dogs who passed them on to the rspca for safe keeping which they have failed to do so under the 2006 welfare act so both are responsible they will find that they are subject to privet prosecutions as both party's have failed to provide adequate care and safety for the animals To Be honest, looking at that scenario a PP against the police who in good faith gave dogs to the RSPCA, a supposedly reputable animal charity, would have about as much chance as a snowball in hell of succeeding. What would give your case a boost is if the CPS laid charges against the RSPCA for dereliction of care of animals placed in their care. On the other hand if you were to open a PP against the police they may be forced to do the above just to clear themselves? TC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tank34 2,340 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 what's happening about rest of your dogs mate good news your getting somewhere with your case,can't the judge order your dogs back to you mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) I think of it this way, were the police negligent when they handed the dogs over to the RSPCA? I would say no as it is a recognised procedure that is done nearly every day, while investigations are on going. Were the RSPCA negligent when they handed the dogs to a sub contract kennels? I would say yes, as they are ultimately responsible for the dogs. Are the RSPCA exceeding their remit by not returning the dogs when there was no case to answer? I would say yes as they were given the dogs to look after while investigations were on going, as soon as those investigations were completed and no case to answer, the dogs should have been returned to their rightful owner. TC Edited October 9, 2014 by tiercel 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 what's happening about rest of your dogs mate good news your getting somewhere with your case,can't the judge order your dogs back to you mate this was part of they were arguing the legality to who took them it they adjourned it today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Good result today, shows 1 or the both of them are liable and responsible of your dogs death 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the big chief 3,099 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 good result dy its a good start now pal are you still going to the press there just a set of clowns pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,827 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Get to the press all of them and get it in the media other countries might pick up on it down to all these animal rights idiots do not let go of this mate!! Be the proverbial pitbull mate 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevinmc 9 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 The warrant supposedly stated encouraging a dog to fight with a wild animal, they did not show me or leave a copy they took 9 dogs. On the Monday I had a call from the solicitor saying they had called him stating a dog had died the day before IE Sunday. My vet went out and examined the rest of the dogs and was informed the dog had died Monday the RSPCA has never contacted me informing me that one of my sons dog was dead. I asked Clive to find out what had happened? I get a copy of a message he got, that 3 German Shepard's had attacked and killed the dog, the dog was 8 week pregnant at the time. They informed my vet that the body had been sent to Essex for an examination, so I got Clive to request that my vet also had chance to examine the body to make sure it was my sons dog and that there was nothing amiss. They told the vet it would be dropped off Tuesday, surprising that was a no show from them. On Friday night 8pm they dropped it at my vets they wanted it back Monday morning he called me to and told me the report on the dead dog was very damming to the RSPCA and did I want him to proceed with an autopsy? I asked if i could come with my son to make sure it was his dog? When we saw it the skin had been removed, the head removed and she was in bits, there was no way possible to say it was his dog. We scanned the dog and contents of the bag and no micro chip that she was registered with was present, they knew before hand through Clive we were going to go and identify the dog she had only been in there care 2 days, I firmly believe that the RSPCA did this act deliberately. I have found out another dog has been attacked and bitten about the head, I have photos and there own vet report stating no marks on the dog.They granted me access Friday 25 to see my dogs they only fetched 4 dogs. Out of the 4 dogs one was emaciated and had lost 1/3 of his weight with bites to his back legs and tail. I pointed this out to the police and the RSPCA that were present, and the answer I got was to email them with a complaint. I then asked the office why he would not do something abut them starving the dog and the injuries his reply was report the matter to the RSPCA. It’s like there a law unto themselves. I went to the police station to report the fact that they had killed one dog, had injured anther and the emaciated dog, There reply you, will have to write to the RSPCA as its nothing to do with them. I did ask them if it was there duty to stop or prevent any acts of cruelty? They would not answer. Hunting in the UK is legal under the DEFRA guidelines (rat rabbit and fox for the protection of game birds). She went from this, to this in 2 days. Please share. the dirty sick b.....ds criminals in uniform who get paid for this shit 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Sounds like you're getting somewhere now, good luck and continued success Nigel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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