paulus 26 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 The guy who got me fixed on Greyhounds Studied Hares and logged pages and pages of Info in book type form He reared and released them from kits upto 6-7 lbs weight Wish I had that documentation of what he discovered' learned and observed and wrote down. He did say for best part he believed they could never be fully tamed That they would reach a certain age and nature would kick in and that they would go insane so to speak wanting freedom He also said care has to be taken when handling and boxing them to relocate numbers and that when you take them to the release ground rub mud/dirt carefully into them They a very clean animal and once led go if the above is carried out they will sit and clean themselfs without traveling to far thus settling them ? Re seats IMO yeah they use the same seats Re bucks jumping first I don't know. i have hand reared a few over the years and you are correct when they get to a certain age the hormones make them go as wild as if they had never seen a human, Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,216 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 This the fella max,,,,I remember you telling me about being there when he released these leverets 4 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 i was a touch younger here Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 fuzzy over the decades Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Brilliant stuff Paul, as kids we did the same. My Dad worked on a land fill site and two leverets came up in the bucket of his machine. The whole area was going to be tore up so knowing the Doe would loose them, he brought them home. Me Mam really did all the work, I was only about 10, feeding from a little glass dropper until moving on to a bottle type thing as they grew. Funny though how unafraid and tame they first were, then even after loads of handling getting wilder and wilder in a matter of weeks. I remember taking them to the edge of Altcar estate, cardboard box on my knee in the car, not far from where they were found and though they seemed totally wild at that point, they came out of that box so nervous, stopping and clapping down and I could have caught them up again several times over before they hit cover. There are some pictures in my Mams somewhere, I'll try to dig them out. It's a nice memory but i'd never do anything like that again, as kids we had all sorts taken from nature, as well as all your usual stuff we had Sand Lizards, Natterjack Toads, Great Crested Newts etc..... All wrong really, wild things should always be wild. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,216 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 What milk did you feed it paulus?,,,, Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 What milk did you feed it paulus?,,,, just watered down cows milk with a bit of sugar added as advised by me granddad, same here bosun the old man worked at the water board and often accidentally went over them with the mower bringing the leverets home, as kids we had all sorts from owls to ducklings,our roof always had hand reared corvids sitting on it waiting to attack anyone with food Quote Link to post
HBG 350 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Surely both would have to be caught to prove which as jumped up first??whats to say the one that jumped up last wasn't a buck too. 3 Quote Link to post
jukel123 8,102 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Checkout 'Shadow of the Hare' on Youtube , narrated by David Attenborough uploaded by Jacob Lee. From 7.40 to 8.10. (I've tried to paste it but my PC won't let me.) For those that can't be arsed to look, it states that does will consort with young bucks so that the bucks can act as lookouts while the doe feeds. If this is the case then it stands to reason the buck will bolt first since he's the more alert. Quote Link to post
jukel123 8,102 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 I kept leverets when I was a lot younger. I can't even claim I was rescuing them,I just used to pick them up and raise them as pets. I don't remember them getting wild. But that was maybe because I let them go again quite sharpish when the novelty of gathering fresh food for them every day wore off. There was a famous poet called William Cowper who kept pet hares and gave them the run of his house. Like a lot of lads on here I kept every kind of flying, crawling swimming creature I could get my hands on when I was a kid. It's something the antis don't realise. We ain't just killers, we are also amateur naturalists. 6 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,484 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 The guy who got me fixed on Greyhounds Studied Hares and logged pages and pages of Info in book type form He reared and released them from kits upto 6-7 lbs weight Wish I had that documentation of what he discovered' learned and observed and wrote down. He did say for best part he believed they could never be fully tamed That they would reach a certain age and nature would kick in and that they would go insane so to speak wanting freedom He also said care has to be taken when handling and boxing them to relocate numbers and that when you take them to the release ground rub mud/dirt carefully into them They a very clean animal and once led go if the above is carried out they will sit and clean themselfs without traveling to far thus settling them ? Re seats IMO yeah they use the same seats Re bucks jumping first I don't know. i once spent a couple of hours on a hill top watching a beagle pack hunting hares, from that a high vantage point the whole hunt could be seen in a totally different light from following the pack on foot as i normally did, each hare ran a circuit using the same runs and lines crossing other runs, these intersection points sometimes split the pack and new hare was often found, this hare again would run a circuit of its own choosing, the beagles caught several hares that day. a couple were taken out of their seats in the plough and another after it clipped the bottom of a hedge and rolled injuring itself in the process. I watched the NCD on a hill like that one day. It was facinating to watch a Hare from a distance that was not far in front of Hounds but running little ruses through the tussocky grass so that they were kept so near (but not in sight) but so busy she managed to beat them for some time. This was a tired Hare which was eventually caught. Who said Hares dont have intellect..This thread like that Hare is now just managing to stay just in front of the moronic point scoring and become interesting..Thanks for that. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Checkout 'Shadow of the Hare' on Youtube , narrated by David Attenborough uploaded by Jacob Lee. From 7.40 to 8.10.(I've tried to paste it but my PC won't let me.)For those that can't be arsed to look, it states that does will consort with young bucks so that the bucks can act as lookouts while the doe feeds.If this is the case then it stands to reason the buck will bolt first since he's the more alert.is that enough prove for you darcy lol Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 I,v put Hares to ground, i,v seen them swim for it, i,v even put one into a tree, but i,v never seen one settle down into its seat and i,v spent 1,000s of hour's sat in edge bottoms watching them, seem to get more settleing in woods these days though, i wonder if its because we farm more intensivly these days. 2 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Buster, I blame a lot of todays hares habits on the upsurge in the buzzard population. Like you say, they live in woods and ditches and those that sit in the open often sit very, very tight. There's nothing I wouldn't believe of what a hares capable of. They're a highly adaptable creature that deserve nothing but the very highest respect. 3 Quote Link to post
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