Cz452 .22Lr

[Elliott 436]

Right chaps, I'm on the verge of buying a secondhand CZ452 in .22LR to have some fun with and help with vermin control. I already have a HMR but fancy trying a .22 to see why some prefer them over the HMR.

 

Obviously, with subsonic ammo they are much quieter than the HMR and at half the energy have a more pronounced trajectory (which is half the fun) but what sort of groups should I expect to achieve and what would you say was the maximum, practical range for vermin control. Sub yards?

 

 

[Sternyboy 4]

Mines zeroed at 50m and I get 20p sized grouping at that range, in my somewhat limited opinion, .22 fills the void between air rifle and .17hmr.

 

From what I've read/heard of people's experience, .22 is great for lamping as it's quite and .17hmr for daytime at longer ranges.

 

Not getting my .17 until my license comes back with it on so only going by what I've heard.

[shropshire dan 467]

I have both and zero tge 22 at 50 yards and its 1mildot holdover at 80yards using winchester subs. Great for lamping much more effective than a hmr at night imo very good fun. As above 20p groups at 50yards great guns

[Elliott 436]

Thanks.

 

I've arrange to collect it next week. Agreed £150 for the rifle and 300 rounds of ammo. Anything I need to look out for? How much are the trigger kits?

[shropshire dan 467]

Think the trigger kits are available from rimfire magic and are less than £20 worth the money and relatively easy to fit alot of how to guides on YouTube. That seems a cheap price to be fair, aslong as the bolt cycles smoothly and id also dry fire it to make sure it works and the safety works obviously other than that you should be good to go. Id personally would stay clear of any hv rounds as they are crap I have used eley subs rws sub and lapua subs. I now use winchester subs as they are easily accessible for me. However eley subs produce the best groups in my gun.

Enjoy it

 

Atb

Dan

[Sternyboy 4]

Paid £15 for my trigger kit from rimfire magic for my cz

[Elliott 436]

Think the trigger kits are available from rimfire magic and are less than £20 worth the money and relatively easy to fit alot of how to guides on YouTube. That seems a cheap price to be fair, aslong as the bolt cycles smoothly and id also dry fire it to make sure it works and the safety works obviously other than that you should be good to go. Id personally would stay clear of any hv rounds as they are crap I have used eley subs rws sub and lapua subs. I now use winchester subs as they are easily accessible for me. However eley subs produce the best groups in my gun.

Enjoy it

 

Atb

Dan

 

 

Paid £15 for my trigger kit from rimfire magic for my cz

Thanks chaps, seems cheap enough. Looking forward to it

[moxy 617]

Get your hand in your pocket mate and get on with it

 

On a serious note though just watch the ear whizzers.

[Elliott 436]

Get your hand in your pocket mate and get on with it

 

On a serious note though just watch the ear whizzers.

Will do

 

On a serious note, the ricochets are one of the things that has always put me off the .22LR

[paulus 26]

they sound far worse than they are in reality, easy to stop though..............................................don't miss

[Deker 3,477]

 

Get your hand in your pocket mate and get on with it

 

On a serious note though just watch the ear whizzers.

Will do

 

On a serious note, the ricochets are one of the things that has always put me off the .22LR

 

 

 

they sound far worse than they are in reality, easy to stop though..............................................don't miss

Any round and any calibre can ricochet, frankly I get sick of hearing all this about the .22lr, in many cases regurgitated I'm sure by someone who read something. (I'm not pointing any fingers here)

 

Don't miss and take care, yes, it has happened to me, but I select the best calibre and ammo for the ground and quarry, I don't get these bouncing all over the countryside all the time. There is no way in the world I would get rid of either of my current .22lrs because of some overhyped spiel about ricochet.

 

The .22lr is still by far the most popular civil calibre in the world, seems plenty of people can handle it perfectly satisfactorily.

Edited April 22, 2014 by Deker

[Deker 3,477]

Right chaps, I'm on the verge of buying a secondhand CZ452 in .22LR to have some fun with and help with vermin control. I already have a HMR but fancy trying a .22 to see why some prefer them over the HMR.

 

Obviously, with subsonic ammo they are much quieter than the HMR and at half the energy have a more pronounced trajectory (which is half the fun) but what sort of groups should I expect to achieve and what would you say was the maximum, practical range for vermin control. Sub yards?

I never understand this phrase, rifle/calibres/ammo are tools, some are better suited to some land/distances/quarry than others, like all tools, when you do a job you chose the best suited for that job

 

You select the best for the situation in hand, that doesn't/shouldn't mean, I prefer this gun to that gun, it should only mean, this is the best gun in this situation.

If some suggest they prefer the .22lr over the HMR than I can but suggest the best tool for the job was always a .22lr.

 

Once you have found the right ammo then .22lr sub sonic groups can be exceptionally good in the field. I seldom use mine past about yards, and most commonly closer, simply because if I know the quarry will be + yards away I will tend to take a different calibre! Many suggest 100yards or further in the field, even a sub retains lots of rabbit stopping energy at 100 yards, and if you are experienced at those distance and have nothing better with you then why not!?

[dadioles 68]

One tip...

You mentioned the price included 300 rounds of ammunition.

 

Dealers tend to throw that in as part of a deal but it is not much good to you if those 300 rounds don't really suit your gun.

 

I suggest you get a box each of whatever the dealer has in stock and then find out what suits the rifle best.

 

Zero at 50 yards and you should get groups at that distance which fit in the area of a 20p coin but only with the right ammunition.

 

Broadly speaking, you will be able to shoot from 15 to 55 yards 'flat', meaning within an area of one inch or less without holdover or holdunder. After 55 yards you will have to aim progressively higher to compensate for the drop.

 

Lots of practice on paper targets.

 

Enjoy

[Born Hunter 17,743]

Deker, simple fact is that people's opinions are often split over the 22/17 and that can be with exactly the same jobs in mind. Lamping, daytime sniping, a truck rifle whatever, there's no such thing as "the right tool for the job", only individual's subjective opinions on what their preferred tool is, and that can differ for any number of perfectly valid reasons

[wicklapaul 2]

 

Get your hand in your pocket mate and get on with it

On a serious note though just watch the ear whizzers.

 

Will do

On a serious note, the ricochets are one of the things that has always put me off the .22LR

 

If you use the sub sonic I dont think the ricochet, mind you the are no good on rabbits only if you head shot the whole time,

Ok for target shooting,