Iep Report On The Badger Cull; Was The Cull Ever About Btb?

[Matt 160]

Someone posting on this thread is just repeating lies and propaganda posted by animal rights loons

 

I'll leave it to you, the reader, to work out who

 

Oh, and Kitty, dear, what you know about culling badgers and perturbation would fit on the back of a postage stamp; so when you've got some credible opinions of your own, that don't rely on cut and pastes from 'other' sources, please feel free to come back and tell me where we've gone wrong.

 

In the meantime, I'll get back to my legal work culling badger vermin that's infecting our cattle with a disease that will soon infect humans as frequently as it used to, and wiping out much rarer and threatened species....

 

I'm sure you're right of course the cull was a complete failure, and nothing to do with TB

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Little qestion for you what is the uk population of the badger

What was the uk population of sheep and cattle pre foot and mouth

Did they have a vacine for foot and mouth what was the cost of foot and mouth

Why did the not vacinenate. All uninfected cloven footed beasts

Why should the vaccinate the badger

Why is the badger the most protected animal on the planet

How much would it cost

How long would it take

If the fox carried tb would they start gassing tomorrow

Edited April 17, 2014 by gonetoearth

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

Utter crap so you beleave putting the badger up even higher on the pedistal He already occupies is the answer lol.

While the over population of this creature is ravaging ground nesting birds and mamals. Other than the farmed type that may never recover. Talk shit to ever you want but dont try and preach your shite to people that know better

 

Believe what you like, how high the pedestal is doesn't count for anything if we lose our way of life, our right to shoot or if the Anti's make it too hard; you never know, if the public take a disliking to use enough for killing their "pretty" badgers, Parliament could stop our fun. you know they'll do anything for votes, look at the Tories, I thought they were on our side.

 

If you don't agree with what I'm saying, feel free to disregard it which is what I'm doing to your post

. Lol. You carnt you have allready answerd it fool

[gonetoearth 5,144]

How i love the smell of bull shit in the morning !!!!!!

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Oh. Go on kitty you know you want to answer go on go on on

[Kitsune 0]

Thanks guys, you really made me smile

 

PMSL!!!

Edited April 18, 2014 by Kitsune

[Fud 26]

It's good to know the badger cull is getting under the bunny huggers skin now that really makes me smile

 

HAW HAW HAW

[RubyTex 1,957]

Where's Walshie with his big red button?

[WILF 46,597]

 

 

 

So let me get this clear, we are saying that they can't get pinged from 50 yds with a .223 and they can't be cage trapped so how exactly do you get close enough to innoculate !??

Nonsense, absolute nonsense

 

No idea but it's worked in Wales, they managed to vaccinate a load of them; maybe the badgers are friendly to bunny huggers?

How many is a "load" ?..........what percentage of the population ?

Ok, figures in the vaccination; West Wales has been vaccinating for two years now (after the fluffy welsh assembly wouldn't allow culling, Antis), they vaccinated 1,424 black and whites in their first year and rumoured more this year, so far their bTB in cattle is down by a quarter, the trial is going on for 5 years so they are expecting far better results in the long run.

 

Couple of things -

- Who told you it worked in Wales? I would love to know where a bouts this TB free mecca is? Because every place I go in Wales, all I hear is anger and frustration surrounding the governments attitude toward badgers.

 

- Second - Do you not feel that the cull was somewhat set up to fail, being dictated to from above by people who have zero knowledge and understanding of the kind of job they are trying to run?

 

-I'm sure there are places where it's not shown enough effects in bTB numbers yet but for the most part it is working; Pembrokeshire/ Carmarthenshire area

 

Totally, the problem is

-People in parliament don't know what their talking about, they wouldn't be able to identify a cow or sheep (yeah some shoot but they still don't know the countryside)

-The guys on the land typically don't do "legal" or "Political" which is needed for this especially when anti's and the other hippies are involved (Dr Braindead included)

 

There is too much of a divide between the "Honorable Gentlemen" in parliment and the real farmers who are loosing livestock; this cull was a failure because of how it was put together, doomed from the start and so are the successive years of these pilot culls.

 

Nothing would please me more than removing the general public's access to the countryside during the foot and mouth outbreaks it was startling just how many ignorant twats continued to try and use the footpaths even though we where under quarantine.

 

Don't even get me started on the Foot and Mouth outbreak, that was a total f*ck up; also I believe it caused this bTB problem to be a national emergency rather than a local problem

 

My personal recommendations...

 

Scrap the Cull, Perturbation is the worst thing that can happen for the countryside; just deal with the high numbers.

 

Vaccinate! so trap, test; inject the bTB free and cull the reactors. Work first of all on bTB free zones near hotspots to stop the spread of bTB outwards. Let the anti's help out with the vaccination, I'm sure they will change their minds after they come face to face with a cornered badger. It will keep them sweet, you never know, they may stop thinking of us as being "cold blooded raw meat eaters" (quoted from one's attack at me couple years back at Cheltenham's Countryside Festival).

 

A live healthy bTB free, Vaccinated badger is more use to us all than a dead badger any day, especially seeing as badgers are so blood territorial; Even if they cause damage to other parts of the infrastructure, We need to eradicate bTB in our national herd first, that has to be our top priority; screw the bees, game birds and the crops they damage, save the cows and steers first, that is people's livelihoods.

Giving me a number is not quiet the same as % of the population is it .........you used the % figure to argue that it was a failure but a number to argue for what worked, so what are we working in here ?

 

If your gonna be a crusader then you better know what you are talking about, all hunters here so we are well used to smoke and mirrors when it comes to any hunting related "official study" lol lol

[budharley 945]

Kitsune what hunting do you enjoy my friend, what's your favoured field sport

[Fud 26]

Kitsune what hunting do you enjoy my friend, what's your favoured field sport

Rattling pots

[paulus 26]

Not many posts because I've just recently decided to bother with this forum, until really recently I have been to busy to be on hunting forums or actually to go shooting or hunting. Remember there was a time Mushroom that you had few posts, it didn't mean what you had to say was of any less importance than the next guy with 10,000 posts, it just meant that he wasn't outside shooting, exercising the dogs but was inside in the warm in front of a computer of all things. As for people involved in the cull, do I know any marksmen? not from this cull, do I know any farmers who are suffering from bTB Yes, have I talked to scientists involved with the culling of badgers, yes; do I know gamekeepers who are loosing stock and having problems with badgers, yes. Have you?

 

Because I'm new on this site doesn't mean that I'm any less than you; I'm Country borne and raised, studied Countryside and Game Management before deciding to pursue Environmental Science as a BSc Hons. I've worked the land (Arable, Beef, dairy, sheep and laying hen) as a relief farmer and now I'm based in a city.

 

For me, the cull was as the antis say "Ineffective" but I believe so because it was put together by fools and politicians from the beginning, it was doomed from the start and yeah if only the police did do that...

 

They were the good old days Qbgrey but with the anti pressure, I don't see it happening, hunting Charlie with a pack is illegal let alone a protected animal

 

My concerns are if we go in heavy handed, the problem will get worse before it gets better, we will be blamed and we could also have psycho bunny huggers come after anyone field-sports for retribution; it's not worth it for the quick fix

bollocks extrapolate your post count in comparison to mine 15 in 3 days = 5 per day over a ten year period that would equate to over 18,000

[Fud 26]

 

 

Not many posts because I've just recently decided to bother with this forum, until really recently I have been to busy to be on hunting forums or actually to go shooting or hunting. Remember there was a time Mushroom that you had few posts, it didn't mean what you had to say was of any less importance than the next guy with 10,000 posts, it just meant that he wasn't outside shooting, exercising the dogs but was inside in the warm in front of a computer of all things. As for people involved in the cull, do I know any marksmen? not from this cull, do I know any farmers who are suffering from bTB Yes, have I talked to scientists involved with the culling of badgers, yes; do I know gamekeepers who are loosing stock and having problems with badgers, yes. Have you?

 

Because I'm new on this site doesn't mean that I'm any less than you; I'm Country borne and raised, studied Countryside and Game Management before deciding to pursue Environmental Science as a BSc Hons. I've worked the land (Arable, Beef, dairy, sheep and laying hen) as a relief farmer and now I'm based in a city.

 

For me, the cull was as the antis say "Ineffective" but I believe so because it was put together by fools and politicians from the beginning, it was doomed from the start and yeah if only the police did do that...

 

They were the good old days Qbgrey but with the anti pressure, I don't see it happening, hunting Charlie with a pack is illegal let alone a protected animal

 

My concerns are if we go in heavy handed, the problem will get worse before it gets better, we will be blamed and we could also have psycho bunny huggers come after anyone field-sports for retribution; it's not worth it for the quick fix

bollocks extrapolate your post count in comparison to mine 15 in 3 days = 5 per day over a ten year period that would equate to over 18,000

Extrapolate my post count

[paulus 26]

 

 

Not many posts because I've just recently decided to bother with this forum, until really recently I have been to busy to be on hunting forums or actually to go shooting or hunting. Remember there was a time Mushroom that you had few posts, it didn't mean what you had to say was of any less importance than the next guy with 10,000 posts, it just meant that he wasn't outside shooting, exercising the dogs but was inside in the warm in front of a computer of all things. As for people involved in the cull, do I know any marksmen? not from this cull, do I know any farmers who are suffering from bTB Yes, have I talked to scientists involved with the culling of badgers, yes; do I know gamekeepers who are loosing stock and having problems with badgers, yes. Have you?

 

Because I'm new on this site doesn't mean that I'm any less than you; I'm Country borne and raised, studied Countryside and Game Management before deciding to pursue Environmental Science as a BSc Hons. I've worked the land (Arable, Beef, dairy, sheep and laying hen) as a relief farmer and now I'm based in a city.

 

For me, the cull was as the antis say "Ineffective" but I believe so because it was put together by fools and politicians from the beginning, it was doomed from the start and yeah if only the police did do that...

 

They were the good old days Qbgrey but with the anti pressure, I don't see it happening, hunting Charlie with a pack is illegal let alone a protected animal

 

My concerns are if we go in heavy handed, the problem will get worse before it gets better, we will be blamed and we could also have psycho bunny huggers come after anyone field-sports for retribution; it's not worth it for the quick fix

bollocks extrapolate your post count in comparison to mine 15 in 3 days = 5 per day over a ten year period that would equate to over 18,000

Extrapolate my post count

 

12227.5 per year

[TOMO 26,025]

you got millions