BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released... https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible. First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns. Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period. The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis. Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that. Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this Regards Kitsune . YEH GASS THEM By Royal approval !dig them , gas them , shoot them, beat them, hang them and when it's done and dusted start the cull on badgers. Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Kitsune likes Brian May, we all like Princess Anne . But which is better.......................? There's only one way to find out.................... Edited April 16, 2014 by Blackbriar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kitsune 0 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Anti? that's seriously a cruel insult; Devil's advocate, that's all. You guys need to stop being so bloody paranoid You have to admit that the pilot cull was a total failure and he Government hasn't a clue what their talking about, it doesn't really effect them like it does us guys And by the way, I've met the Princess Royal several times as she's also very involved in horse racing, lovely lady Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Anti? that's seriously a cruel insult; Devil's advocate, that's all. You guys need to stop being so bloody paranoid You have to admit that the pilot cull was a total failure and he Government hasn't a clue what their talking about, it doesn't really effect them like it does us guys And by the way, I've met the Princess Royal several times as she's also very involved in horse racing, lovely lady Lovely lady indeed, and very popular among us THL members, not least of all because she's a cracking shot and thinks badgers should be gassed ! Edited April 16, 2014 by Blackbriar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kitsune 0 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Anti? that's seriously a cruel insult; Devil's advocate, that's all. You guys need to stop being so bloody paranoid You have to admit that the pilot cull was a total failure and he Government hasn't a clue what their talking about, it doesn't really effect them like it does us guys And by the way, I've met the Princess Royal several times as she's also very involved in horse racing, lovely lady Lovely lady indeed, and very popular among us THL members, not least of all because she's a cracking shot and thinks badgers should be gassed ! I'm not suprised that you guys like her, she's a down to earth, typical country person, she says it as it is; plus she has a cracking course at Gatcombe which can challenge even the best event/ hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) @ Kitsune Seriously,you can't have your 4th post contain the words "the idea of culling is not feasible", and not expect some hostility from a pro-hunting forum. You've walked into the lion's den, mate ! Advice? Keep quiet or fight your corner better. ATB Edited April 16, 2014 by Blackbriar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kitsune 0 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 @ Kitsune Seriously,you can't have your 4th post contain the words "the idea of culling is not feasible", and not expect some hostility from a pro-hunting forum. You've walked into the lion's den, mate ! Advice? Keep quiet or fight your corner better. ATB Thanks for the advice mate; it's interesting to see what some of the responses are, so paranoid, personally I'm pretty outspoken, I've never don'e the quiet thing well. Just to clear up some things, I'm no pot smoking sofa surfing scrounger just I think the government pussied around with the first pilot and screwed up despite the hard work of the contractors. they need to try better and if they are serious about getting the bTB problem solved, let the anti's and their ilk have a go with the vaccines, it will stop any shit from ALF or the other nutters in the long run. That said, I wouldn't mind being down in Somerset or Gloucestershire this year, just not sure I have the time to commit because what I've heard from people so far, getting trained and the actual shooting, it's no game shooting. Kitsune Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Forget the shooting..... Look what the scans, germans, hungarians etc do. It works. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CBdogsA1 420 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I wonder what would happen if we all disrupted a vaccination scheme !!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiefried 269 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Forget the shooting..... Look what the scans, germans, hungarians etc do. It works. They Have the Training and enough good Tools to make a Good Job..and have an Impact.Have We Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 What they do, is they accurately survey how many badgers they have, then they decide how many they want and where they want them, and then they issue licences to hunters to remove them. Seems to do the trick . . . Ok so our country is run by a group of idiots. But its a nice idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abarrett 462 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 My opinion? It shouldnt have been news, it should have been kept out of the publics eye so the scruffy work shy anti w@nkers didn't get wind of it with their pathetic disruption techniques. I agree stop the trials put them on the general licence and let any farmer who's land these brocks roam around on make the decision if he wants them getting rid of or not, just like the fox. My vaccine would be a 55gr .223 Simple. How simple a solution is that They would only need to be on the licence for a month or two and jobs a gud un Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Look what the scans, germans, hungarians etc do. It works. This certainly worked, in Slovenia ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiefried 269 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 What they do, is they accurately survey how many badgers they have, then they decide how many they want and where they want them, and then they issue licences to hunters to remove them. Seems to do the trick . . . Ok so our country is run by a group of idiots. But its a nice idea. Great idea,but How many licences could ,in reality be issued......there only issued to ..Competent HUNTERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 That my friend. . . . is a very fair point. Sad but true. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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