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[Guest Bunny Basher]

The greyhound isnt even closely related to the saluki but more related to herding dogs, NO mention of bull in it

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound

[miles 227]

You said outcrosses miles, which is right, any idiot knows that but the original argument was that a plain old greyhound had bull in it?

 

Now whos right???

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Any idiot YOU did,nt know! YOU had to go looking on google and YOU still could,nt find it!

The only "bull" in minshaw is BULLSHIT

[miles 227]

The greyhound isnt even closely related to the saluki but more related to herding dogs, NO mention of bull in it

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound

Stop it now son YOUR embarresing yourself

[Guest Bunny Basher]

:laugh: Look at the link miles from 4000 bc no bull in a greyhound.

 

Now whos a bullshitter?? :haha:

 

Now can some idiot go on google and find were it says that a pure bred greyhound as bull in it

[Guest SKINNER]

WHO MENTIONED MINSHAW??? I SAID I WAS WRONG !!!!! I HAD NEVER HEARD OF GREYHOUNDS HAVING BULL IN THEM??

 

Around this time Lord Orford, a fervent devotee to coursing, set out to improve upon the greyhound. He found what he thought to be a winning formula by crossbreeding greyhounds with the bulldog. This crossbreed was met by much ridicule from Orford's peers and competitors. The bulldog cross is one of the oldest of the greyhound legends. There is little to no question that Orford, as well as many others, attempted the crossbreed. It's the results of the crossbreed that are debatable. The legend states that Orford bred the bulldog blood for seven generations and produced two undefeatable dogs Snowball and Major. But experts have a different account of the tale. They state the bulldog cross proved useless and was given up after only one of the dogs raced and retired after running only 400 yards. Incidentally the greyhound color, brindle, is blamed on this hybrid

Edited October 10, 2007 by SKINNER

[Guest Bunny Basher]

SKINNER

 

Lord Orford crossbred a greyhound with a bulldog and they were USELESS

 

No mention of a pure greyhound having bull in it

[luke 2]

deffinatly bull blood flows through the greyhound but just out of

interest how many own dogs that took foxes three or four times a week

and what cross were they i think they must be as rare as the hundred

rabbits a knight dogs

[Guest Bunny Basher]

But then greyhounds have bull in them dont they.

 

 

NO YOU IDIOT

 

This was the argument 'GREYHOUNDS' have bull in them, NO mention of outcrosses.

 

So a greyhound was bred with a bulldog, so the question being did that original greyhound used by Lord Orford have bull in it? NO it was after that breeding.

 

Stop it now Miles my son youre embarrasing yourself

Edited October 10, 2007 by Bunny Basher

[Guest nitedog]

deffinatly bull blood flows through the greyhound but just out of

interest how many own dogs that took foxes three or four times a week

and what cross were they i think they must be as rare as the hundred

rabbits a knight dogs

Iv got a dog that will kill as many foxs as you point him to hes had teeth four five times a week and never gets sick but hes not saluki hes collie grey bull grey pre ban ovcourse

Edited October 10, 2007 by nitedog

[miles 227]

Sorry to mention the M word but B/B had a 3/4 M (MONGREL) for sale £ 2500 Ask him if he.s related to A,S,D?

As skinner quotes,most racing greyhouds go back to orfords stuff,if you out cross a saliuki to a greyhound,has it got greyhound in it?

All breeds are results of crossing at some point and an outcross is considered "pure" by the KC after five generations.

Deerhounds were "outcrossed" with the kc,s blessing back to greyhounds,there.s even a Afgan in the greyhound stud book!

If Orfords dogs were bred from then greyhounds have bull blood in em....period

[thurso jack 3]

read last paragraph

 

Here's a look at other historical events about the Greyhound breed and Greyhound hunting and racing.

 

8,000 years ago—Archaeological remains show that a dog very similar to a Greyhound existed in the Middle East.

 

In her book “The Reign of the Greyhound†Cynthia A. Branigan writes, “Excavations at Catal-Huyuk in Turkey, a site dating back to 6,000 B.C., have a sanctuary decorated with ritual hunting scenes. The dogs assisting in the kill had long legs, delicate muzzles and deep chests. These were the first purebred dogs and progenitors of the Greyhounds we know today.†The original Arab Greyhounds were also used as hunters and a source of sport. The birth of a Greyhound in early Arabian culture was second only in importance to the birth of a son. Cleopatra reputedly was a Greyhound fancier.

 

The Greyhound is the only canine breed specifically mentioned in the Bible. In Proverbs 30:29, King Solomon displays his wisdom by speaking glowingly of the breed: “There be three things which go well, yea, are coming in going…A Greyhound, and a goat also, and a king against whom there is no rising up.â€

 

600 BC—The Arab Greyhound found its way to other civilizations. Persians believed they were the only dogs allowed in the next world. The Tartars brought the Greyhound to Russia, where it was later crossed with local dogs, giving rise to the borzoi branch of the Greyhound family. The breed made its way to Afghanistan, where crossed with local breeds became the ancestor to the Afghan hound.

 

The ancient Greeks became caretakers of the short-haired Greyhound, and it became known as the Greekhound, then grakehound, possibly the origins for the name Greyhound.

 

200 BC—Greek writer Flavius Arrianus wrote about hunting with Greyhounds. His description of the hounds of his time was similar to that of the Greyhound today. It was Arrianus who laid out the first primitive rules of coursing.

 

AD—The Greyhound was the subject of much art of the Roman Empire.

 

The Dark Ages—The Greyhound migrated throughout the European continent. There is clear evidence that Greyhounds were used in France and Germany in the ninth century to course hair, deer, wolves and wild pigs.

 

1014—The breed migrated with Gallic and Celtic tribes to England. When the Gallic tribes were driven out of England to Ireland, they took their Greyhounds with them and managed to keep the breed pure and smooth coated. St. Patrick, on his escape from slavery, traveled in a boat in which the principal cargo was Greyhounds, which were being exported for the use in the Roman arena. In 1014 Canute (A Dane) became King of England and enacted the Forest Laws. The woods and fields at this time were alive with game, and often the hunting by poor villagers would come into conflict with the hunting by the king and chiefs. To remedy that, the Forest Laws included a statute that said only noblemen could own and hunt with Greyhounds.

 

1500—Queen Elizabeth abolished the Forest Laws and became a fan of the breed. She ordered Lord Norfolk to draft the first formal rules of Greyhound coursing. Cleopatra and Queen Elizabeth's fascination off the breed is why Greyhound racing today is known as the “Sport of Queens.â€

 

1776—Greyhounds, used for both hunting and sport, became a fashionable dog of England. The Greyhound had evolved into two types. The first was larger, rougher deerhound, used for hunting big game. The second was the smaller type, which was used for hunting hare and other small quarry. It is indisputable that Greyhounds were first used as hunters for the purpose of putting food on the family table. However, hunting soon turned to sport and recreation. In 1776, the Earl of Orford, a zealous Greyhound owner, organized the first coursing club of England, the Swaffham Coursing Society. Other clubs sprung up.

 

Lord Orford kept a larger kennel, as many as 100 dogs. He also experimented with crossing the Greyhound with other breeds. He crossed the Greyhound with the English bulldog (which then was more like today's terrier). The result was far from successful, but seven generations later Lord Orford obtained Greyhounds with “small ears, rat tails and skin almost without hair, together with the innate courage found in the Bulldog breed that never gives in…rather to die than relinquish the chase.†Lord Orford's Greyhounds are the ancestors to our modern-day Greyhounds. Lord Orford is also considered the father of coursing..

[miles 227]

Lord Orford's Greyhounds are the ancestors to our modern-day Greyhounds. Lord Orford is also considered the father of coursing..

AND his dogs had bull in em! Now run off and look cbeebies up on google,its more suited to your age and CERTAINLY your interlect!

[Guest Bunny Basher]

Now now now stop spiting your dummy out my argument is still the same, the original greyhound did not have bull in it, it was a greyhound bred to a bull dog and then they did have bull in them and not before.

 

Stop going round in circles

[Brummy 9]

Lord Orford's Greyhounds are the ancestors to our modern-day Greyhounds. Lord Orford is also considered the father of coursing..

AND his dogs had bull in em! Now run off and look cbeebies up on google,its more suited to your age and CERTAINLY your interlect!

 

Or even INTELLECT

[miles 227]

But then greyhounds have bull in them dont they.

 

 

NO YOU IDIOT

SORRY I thought he was talking about the modern greyhound NOT pre Orford ones!