Malt 379 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I think its fair to say I know more Liverpool fans than you Malt , and bitter and twisted isn't something that I,v seen a lot of ,jealousy yes ,but considering our biggest rivals have out gunned us for nearly a quarter of a century emotions spilling over into the bitter and twisted category have been relatively scarce , of course this is only in my experienceI was only pulling your leg mate. Most people of a certain age round here are Liverpool or United fans though, seeing as we've no teams of our own to follow. Not saying I know as many as someone like yourself who's actually from Liverpool, but I could probably count 50-100 or so people off the top of my head that I've known over the years who have chosen to support them, possibly more. I know more Liverpool fans than United fans come to think of it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,580 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Sunderland AFC supporters on the other hand ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marky b 309 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Sunderland AFC supporters on the other hand .....are like rocking horse shit lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 The prem has brought world wide viewing attracting fans from every corner of the planent were before only die hard football fans would glean news about the english league , the teams that went on to euopean success attracted even more attention. Being a bitter blue i have watched man utd' succes over the prem years grow in to a thorn in are noisy neibours side i know loads of bitter reds Who loose sleep over man utd's succes and there premiership domonace , put your self in are position. Robbed of european football. Then losing are place amonst the premire elite , bitter bit over the top but for a club that stood by its nighbour through bad times to never recive an applogy for blocking are european cup entry when we were at the very pinnical of succes Wll all ways stick in are throuts not the fans but the shites hierachy , i dont care if they win the prem we might even help their course but we will never forget !!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,305 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 He should leave in the summer and admit he was out of his depth, his football is terrible, there's nothing to look to the future in, seriously think united need to break with tradition and get rid ASAP or it could be bleak He is not a top five manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 I lost touch with football a few years back, I still read the odd bit here and there but no where near as much as I did when I was playing. I thought that Jose was pushed from Chelsea as he refused to play certain players that Abramovich had "favour" with. He went to Real and had a good run there but the Chelsea squad were always crying for him like lost puppies. In the meantime he was being asked if he was going to take the realm at United after Fergie left and he would deny it in typical Jose way. Given his track record of keeping stuff close to his chest and having an ego the size of Jupiter I've always thought he took up the Chelsea reins again just to show Abramovich he was wrong to have pushed him out of the club and once he has rubbed Roman's nose in it he would walk from Chelsea and then make himself very available for the United role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,494 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) I lost touch with football a few years back, I still read the odd bit here and there but no where near as much as I did when I was playing. I thought that Jose was pushed from Chelsea as he refused to play certain players that Abramovich had "favour" with. He went to Real and had a good run there but the Chelsea squad were always crying for him like lost puppies. In the meantime he was being asked if he was going to take the realm at United after Fergie left and he would deny it in typical Jose way. Given his track record of keeping stuff close to his chest and having an ego the size of Jupiter I've always thought he took up the Chelsea reins again just to show Abramovich he was wrong to have pushed him out of the club and once he has rubbed Roman's nose in it he would walk from Chelsea and then make himself very available for the United role. If Chelsea dont win the Premier League.....or the Champions League................do you think Mourinho will be sacked ?.....and if not why not. Seems to me theres a lot of football fans these days falling over themself about Mourinho............i dont buy it myself........he has had a lot of success yes,does that make him a great manager of football teams/players.....im not so sure. Edited April 14, 2014 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themoocher 231 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) He is one of the most succesfull managers there has ever been. Not saying he is the greatest but he is a good manager But that saying he does get the big clubs with big bank balances Edited April 14, 2014 by Themoocher 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 He is one of the most succesfull managers there has ever been. Not saying he is the greatest but he is a good manager But that saying he does get the big clubs with big bank balances He does now but he didn't to begin with. 150 home games undefeated in a row and a trophy every year pretty much. I'd say he has his pick of teams to manage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,494 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 If they dont win something big theres a lot of their fans who will be calling for his head.........this depressingly boring football he sets his teams out to play will be tolerated while they win things.......but if they dont...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themoocher 231 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 He is one of the most succesfull managers there has ever been. Not saying he is the greatest but he is a good manager But that saying he does get the big clubs with big bank balances He does now but he didn't to begin with. 150 home games undefeated in a row and a trophy every year pretty much. I'd say he has his pick of teams to manage. I agree mate totally. He is a good manager and one most succesfull there has been. Always spot on with tactics. But I have to agree with nasher. The football is boring this year. They have been the worst of the top 6 to watch all season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 He is one of the most succesfull managers there has ever been. Not saying he is the greatest but he is a good manager But that saying he does get the big clubs with big bank balances He does now but he didn't to begin with. 150 home games undefeated in a row and a trophy every year pretty much. I'd say he has his pick of teams to manage. Porto ain't exactly a small team in Portugal.. Funny how fate turns out.. The thinking at Chelsea before they appointed him was that whoever won the CL final that year would be approached to be the next Chelsea manager with funds available that were unheard of at the time. It was between Mourinho at Porto and Deschamps at Monaco IIRC.. Porto won the final and Mourinho was selected. That Porto even got through to the final against United that year was down to an away goal win and an incorrectly ruled offside Paul Scholes goal. They scored a single goal over the two legs against united. But for a wrong decision Mourinho might not have got the Chelsea job with which to build his legacy and he might not be so prominent a figure as he is today.. He's certainly a good tactician, possibly one of the best ever but IMO there are things to his methods that leave a lot to he desired. He causes friction wherever he goes for a start, and look how many promising players had their careers stalled by signing for Chelsea under him. Decent players like Cudicinni, Bridge, Scot Parker, Shaun Wright-Phillips, and many more spent their best years sat in the stands while under contract for Chelsea under him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themoocher 231 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 He is one of the most succesfull managers there has ever been. Not saying he is the greatest but he is a good manager But that saying he does get the big clubs with big bank balances He does now but he didn't to begin with. 150 home games undefeated in a row and a trophy every year pretty much. I'd say he has his pick of teams to manage. Porto ain't exactly a small team in Portugal.. Funny how fate turns out.. The thinking at Chelsea before they appointed him was that whoever won the CL final that year would be approached to be the next Chelsea manager with funds available that were unheard of at the time. It was between Mourinho at Porto and Deschamps at Monaco IIRC.. Porto won the final and Mourinho was selected. That Porto even got through to the final against United that year was down to an away goal win and an incorrectly ruled offside Paul Scholes goal. They scored a single goal over the two legs against united. But for a wrong decision Mourinho might not have got the Chelsea job with which to build his legacy and he might not be so prominent a figure as he is today.. He's certainly a good tactician, possibly one of the best ever but IMO there are things to his methods that leave a lot to he desired. He causes friction wherever he goes for a start, and look how many promising players had their careers stalled by signing for Chelsea under him. Decent players like Cudicinni, Bridge, Scot Parker, Shaun Wright-Phillips, and many more spent their best years sat in the stands while under contract for Chelsea under him. Hes contreversal manager. Think he likes it as its keeping him and his team in the lime light all the time. I dont agree with the dropping lads left right and chelsea. He had cole on bench all season, Crazy. Think he enjoys the mind games. Takes it a bit far sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Thing is..Mourinho gets results whichever way you look at it. Fergie was excellent at mind games and if he left folk on the bench it was never questioned. Moyes just isn't cut out for the cut and thrust that comes with the utd job. Pound to a penny says that utd would be placed higher (top3) i reckon if fergie was still in charge. Players just don't respect him and trust his tactics and judgement. Those 3 things are a must if a team is going to give it's all for you. Man utd need to get rid and quickly and place a world class manager in . jmo . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 If they dont win something big theres a lot of their fans who will be calling for his head.........this depressingly boring football he sets his teams out to play will be tolerated while they win things.......but if they dont...... Define entertaining football Gnasher as Jose's GD record is pretty good? GF GA GD 1002 364 +638 His win percentage is 67.35% in as opposed to: Moyes - 44.64% Wenger - 53.68% Pellegrini - 50.37% Ferguson - 58.23% Allardyce - 39.86% Benitez - 50.87% Mancini - 55.78% Martinez - 40.18% You can't say he's not up there in the best of the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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