Collie Brains

[Rabbiting man 1,192]

 

 

 

what a cock. . . . once upon a time in this great country of ours... there was no Salukis..and no Pit bulls.

 

That Gallager fella should stick to trying to promote his weak wristed little limpits he calls ferriting dogs.

 

i hope someone put that vid up of him ferreting with ade edminson (spelling) ffs it's a laugh

 

This Vid

[Snifferboy 659]

Having read the article and watched both bits of footage, it's not hard to come to the conclusion that he is a bit of a tit… I'm sure he could be alright but it may take lobotomy!!!

[tsteve9999 456]

Can't believe this is still rumbling on after 15 pages, all I've learned is that there are some great collie xs, some shit collie xs, and there are some gtreat/shit (add whatever breed you like) xs. As long as you're happy with your own dog does it really matter that much?

[whippet 99 2,613]

my mate had a bran new one , I will see if he still got it ....

[J Darcy 5,871]

I don't want to get involved in personalities, but I wouldn't have wanted to be the guys trying to ferret rabbits in summer, with a noisy film crew trudging about all over the shop. It sounds like a difficult task.They didn't do us any harm, and if it gets one young kid interested in ferreting and the great outdoors then good luck to them. There's not enough countrysports on TV, and the modest crumbs that there is gets slagged.

 

Yes, they weren't perfect, but maybe you or I wouldn't have been either if it had have been us in their shoes.

I remember back to the days when there was no Sky television, no internet, no nothing, and we were all young, keen fishermen, desperate to see a programme, or anything, on angling.

Then John Wilson came out and it was like a breath of fresh air....but..you know what happened. Everyone started slagging the guy off , and he was only trying to entertain us.

If I watched TV I'd rather watch a bit of summer ferreting than another reality programme, and at least someone had a go at making it happen, albeit, obviously not up to the standards of many on here.

 

Just a different take on things,....

[nothernlite 18,089]

Dont see the harm in it as j datcy says not the best time of year plus easy to slag people

[Tiny 7 1,694]

And I bet if we all vidoe camera ourselves we wouldn't be as perfect as we think (not even close)

[pritch 335]

I don't want to get involved in personalities, but I wouldn't have wanted to be the guys trying to ferret rabbits in summer, with a noisy film crew trudging about all over the shop. It sounds like a difficult task.They didn't do us any harm, and if it gets one young kid interested in ferreting and the great outdoors then good luck to them. There's not enough countrysports on TV, and the modest crumbs that there is gets slagged.

 

Yes, they weren't perfect, but maybe you or I wouldn't have been either if it had have been us in their shoes.

I remember back to the days when there was no Sky television, no internet, no nothing, and we were all young, keen fishermen, desperate to see a programme, or anything, on angling.

Then John Wilson came out and it was like a breath of fresh air....but..you know what happened. Everyone started slagging the guy off , and he was only trying to entertain us.

If I watched TV I'd rather watch a bit of summer ferreting than another reality programme, and at least someone had a go at making it happen, albeit, obviously not up to the standards of many on here.

 

Just a different take on things,....

aye well you could be right BUT if you hold yourself up to be the expert on all things lurcher

and such you also hold your self open to ridicule,a sort of what goes around comes around

[FUJI 17,327]

This cnut can't have no brains and neither does it owner for running it on that ground

 

[FUJI 17,327]

No brains..

Some brains..

Who really gives a shite? Just enjoy your mutts and bollox to what others say or think..

[Neal 1,873]

As the majority of people reading this thread are, presumably, owners of working dogs (as opposed to purely pets), it's safe to assume we all agree that "willingness to comply" doesn't necessarily equate to intelligence...if it did there'd be a high proportion of McDonalds staff with an Oxbridge education. However, due to the nature of some lurcher literature in the eighties, the opinions held regarding collie blood in lurchers has tended to become polarised whereby some assume that being well trained is almost an indication of not being intelligent. This has been added to by the, understandable, view that dogs which win three sheep trials do so via the training of an expert handler rather than natural ability.

 

This brings up the second problem:instinct. Those dogs which can work naturally and are allowed to (a slightly different ball game here if we were talking kelpies as opposed to border collies but I won't get into that now), are seen as being intelligent when in fact they're following their instinct. So we have a situation where a collie which gathers a flock of sheep or a gundog which retrieves a shot bird is regarded as intelligent whereas a terrier which goes to ground and flushes or kills a fox is not. An analogy would be from a school I was working in about seven years ago; despite the fact that it was an infant school, a playtime ban was brought in against boys who were play-fighting. I argued that if I tried to take playtimes away from the girls who were making daisy chains there would be uproar.

 

In a nutshell, I'd say that intelligence isn't so much the brains a dog is born with or how well trained it is but rather what it chooses to do with both of these things.

Edited April 19, 2014 by Neal

[paulus 26]

I don't want to get involved in personalities, but I wouldn't have wanted to be the guys trying to ferret rabbits in summer, with a noisy film crew trudging about all over the shop. It sounds like a difficult task.They didn't do us any harm, and if it gets one young kid interested in ferreting and the great outdoors then good luck to them. There's not enough countrysports on TV, and the modest crumbs that there is gets slagged.

 

Yes, they weren't perfect, but maybe you or I wouldn't have been either if it had have been us in their shoes.

I remember back to the days when there was no Sky television, no internet, no nothing, and we were all young, keen fishermen, desperate to see a programme, or anything, on angling.

Then John Wilson came out and it was like a breath of fresh air....but..you know what happened. Everyone started slagging the guy off , and he was only trying to entertain us.

If I watched TV I'd rather watch a bit of summer ferreting than another reality programme, and at least someone had a go at making it happen, albeit, obviously not up to the standards of many on here.

 

Just a different take on things,....

i remember Terry Thomas had an angling spot on ATV news on a Friday evening, ATV`s mascot was oscar a wire haired german pointer

[pritch 335]

??? and was that fishin, if it was thats one brainy dog

[Themoocher 231]

I don't want to get involved in personalities, but I wouldn't have wanted to be the guys trying to ferret rabbits in summer, with a noisy film crew trudging about all over the shop. It sounds like a difficult task.They didn't do us any harm, and if it gets one young kid interested in ferreting and the great outdoors then good luck to them. There's not enough countrysports on TV, and the modest crumbs that there is gets slagged.

 

Yes, they weren't perfect, but maybe you or I wouldn't have been either if it had have been us in their shoes.

I remember back to the days when there was no Sky television, no internet, no nothing, and we were all young, keen fishermen, desperate to see a programme, or anything, on angling.

Then John Wilson came out and it was like a breath of fresh air....but..you know what happened. Everyone started slagging the guy off , and he was only trying to entertain us.

If I watched TV I'd rather watch a bit of summer ferreting than another reality programme, and at least someone had a go at making it happen, albeit, obviously not up to the standards of many on here.

 

Just a different take on things,....

Only thing I got was the old videos I use to buy 20 year ago.

Strictly lamping, few videos ferreting and the Warner videos.

Good watch when I was a youngster.

[C556 351]

For brains I've always wondered how a malinois x greyhound would fare instead of a collie cross. They're a bit like Alsations but they're lighter, faster, a lot more agile and mainly bred for work. The problem is you might end up with a dog that'd be too much for a lot of people.