DogFox123 1,379 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Collie x? Not sure either!? That's deffo got bull in it, it's all about the eyes Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Collie x? Not sure either!? That's deffo got bull in it, it's all about the eyes And I thought it was all about the collar! 1 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 I remember a long time reading a plumber book and i only read one or two,Now from what i understand he did more to publicize a collie x than probably any ones ever done for any dog,yet although he put a positive slant on it he admitted if you pushed them to hard they would say no. Yet to even suggest it might happen has shocked. No need to put down dogs though its just a thought on the internet. Just putting on my trainers then of to smash some Fox's. Don't you mean Phloxes? I dug out a few old Plummer books recently, and IMO most of what he wrote was fantasy and dreams. Not knocking him as he can't defend himself. As I've said, I've always been a collie x supporter, and the best I've known have had summat else in the mix. As a hunters type, rather than a slippers type dog they add far more than just brains. For me it's the mental and physical robustness that the best specimens exhibit that stands the test of time. Dont think many lads would disagrea with you,But he did have a good understanding of dogs imo. Couldnt really disagrea with the rest either,except the slipper dogs i dont really know what they are darcy seems to have them trained better than i would train a collie x. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 LOL Your right socks we should all be playing what shall i call my puppy and whats your favourite football team. What the fukc are you on about ? ........ Lol No need to be ignorant.. Ok what is that statement meant to mean ........ I think he means that although folk may disagree with each other, its better to be reading a debate such as this, than another, what shall i call my puppy? thread. I'd say Plummer did a lot to falsely hold up the collie x as a wonder dog, but then it was all a marketing campaign. But some folk just like collies. The first two dogs I ever hunted were both straight collies. They also worked stock, and were general all round companion dogs to me as a kid. There is just something about them I like, including many of their weird ways. Having said that, in getting a pup I wanted to add something else as well, to even out some of the other traits maybe, and because I can see the sense in a bit of bull, so to speak. Mind you a little collie goes far, mine only has maybe 1/4 collie, probably less, and from several gens back on both sides, but its come out strong in both her appearance and character. So we'll see if she stalks, pulls up, jacks or what. Fingers crossed Fair play There just lurchers lads,Ive probally had lurchers with more collie in it than that without knowing it was even there If it shows any kind of cunning you will say its collie,if it smashes de fox you will say its from the bull,yet it could be complete opposite. You get a much more well rounded type dog from a mix imo. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Certain publications have popularised the Collie lurcher for the tyro,..but others already knew the score Yes maybe. If a tyro is a lad that hunts for no other reason than he loves it I'm glad to be one. Lads you can have a night with if, your dogs a donkey they tell you its a donkey,If it looks like a donkey and runs like a demon they tell you that,And if your dogs makes a show of you they send you away with a few things they would try.No egos no motive's,no smoke blowing 1 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 No fecking maybe about it fellah... My family was using collie lurchers long before authors were writing about them,..or men were breeding them,.on masse.. We knows... 5 Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 My Collie/Whippet is plenty intelligent for my liking, as for a rabbiting dog she is just what I wanted in a little lurcher, which come with faults, yes she not perfect. Plus what is it with folk these days arguing over a certain lurchers traits, all is me missing something. 7 Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 And a short video of my bitch ferreting. 1 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Plus what is it with folk these days arguing over a certain lurchers traits, all is me missing something. You're not missing a thing matey, its 'silly season', it starts right after the 'hunting season' every year on here :laugh: Great little vid, I never get sick of seeing a steathy lurcher tip toeing and pre-empting a bolt like that Saying that I think that bitch was thinking a bit too much :laugh: Edited April 14, 2014 by Sirius 2 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Lads you can have a night with if, your dogs a donkey they tell you its a donkey,If it looks like a donkey and runs like a demon they tell you that,And if your dogs makes a show of you they send you away with a few things they would try.No egos no motive's,no smoke blowing Who's 'If' ? and is this some kind of special assessment he is offering for collie types, or any dog? Basically can you explain the above it doesn't make any sense? Edited April 14, 2014 by Sirius 1 Quote Link to post
runem 533 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Collie brains,,i think it should have read dog owners brains, i own both collie greyhounds and saluki greyhounds and have to say they are a completely different mind set,i will give a quick example took both dogs lamping left the 27 inch full saluki cross in the van,first cross collie greyhound ran first,amazing to watch stalked squatters,ran down the beam at squatters ran passed them and then turned back then picked them up,the dog ran a rabbit then suddenly stopped still watching the rabbit,which amazingly slowed down turned around and ran back towards the waiting dog,the rabbit had missed its warren somehow the dog new it,and the rabbit wanted to get in its warren,something else it did it somehow made rabbits run so slow it looked like you could walk up and catch it yourself.after roughly 2.5 hours it had 21 rabbits. now its saluki dogs turn,dog also knows its trade at lamping,squaters ect,dog catches without any fuss nothing fancy at all no stalking squaters just runs at them picks them straight up,nothing given no chance dog just wants a catch,after 1.15 hours it had caught 19 rabbits. you can,t say collies are to clever or salukis stupid ,or collie lurchers are better than saluki lurchers ,its the owners brains,mindset,preference for a type of dog that counts and no one should call anyone for having a different choice in dog types. ps,which do i prefare......ah ah..? Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Sirius, I know who IF is ,...cos over the years, I've met such feckers a thousand times,... But,.. IF you're young Collie based hybrid, don't make a fair sort of ferreting jukel,,..then, feck it,.. I'll give up the Jalfrezi Edited April 14, 2014 by Phil Lloyd 3 Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Fook, you'd need a collie brain to understand the riddle like posts in this thread..... 6 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Fook, you'd need a collie brain to understand the riddle like posts in this thread..... when is a lurcher not a lurcher, when it has collie in it................................................its a jukel or a collie hound Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Fook, you'd need a collie brain to understand the riddle like posts in this thread..... when is a lurcher not a lurcher, when it has collie in it................................................its a jukel or a collie hound IF not it's a cur lol 1 Quote Link to post
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