General lee 979 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 This has been a very good section latley with some very good breeders sharing they're knowledge so I thought I would try and get some info as some members know I breed a few Spanish and I'm very interested in Spanish and Peruvian game birds but im very limited in my knowledge of they're history if any knows any famous strains or breeders of these birds or how they evolved to what they are today or if any one else has some could they post some pics it would be much appreciated thanks in advance lee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dbroofing 24 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hi General be nice if u put some pics up for us to see thanks mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken_man 1,651 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hi General be nice if u put some pics up for us to see thanks mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken_man 1,651 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Agreed :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
welshgamecock 6 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Still got a few sadly no photos mine came from the Isle of white from a certain doctos strain one line came almost always with blue in the body with gold flashes in the chest feathers the others came a dark mahogany with white in the tail yellow legs , I am not aware of any other decent ones in the uk but thats doesnt mean they arnt out there 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
willie thorn 102 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 ? going to enjoy this topic if it gets going lads... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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General lee 979 Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I have absolutely no idea how to upload pics however if someone has a old phone that receives pics I would be able to txt them the pics and they could upload them for me I know It sounds suspicious but I am genuinely bad with computers but if someone inbox a old phone number I would like topmost some pics and get some opinions cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I am able to email pictures if I could email someone and they could upload them for me I would appreciate it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Charlie 11 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 The doctor on the Isle of White had what was basically the last of the Atkinson Spanish a trio off Parsons and a pair off Major Williams,the birds off Parsons consisted of a bright red cock with white in tail and wings a black spurred hen and a partridge hen,the Williams pair a black breasted orange red cock and a partridge hen,the cocks would go between 3.8lb -4.4lb though the bigger ones were less active, the colours were crow winged dark and orange reds black breasted reds and some whites the hens black,lemon hackled black,partridge and white usually with spurs. He kept this strain going pure until 1979 before introducing new blood but was never happy with the results so discarded all Spanish game carrying the Atkinson blood in 1985. A friend of mine had a Spanish cock off the Doctor which he used into his Spanish and they throw the blue colour and mahogany colour as described by Welshgamecock but also whites and piles,they are striking active birds who generally keep themselves fit. Regard Charlie . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken_man 1,651 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 The doctor on the Isle of White had what was basically the last of the Atkinson Spanish a trio off Parsons and a pair off Major Williams,the birds off Parsons consisted of a bright red cock with white in tail and wings a black spurred hen and a partridge hen,the Williams pair a black breasted orange red cock and a partridge hen,the cocks would go between 3.8lb -4.4lb though the bigger ones were less active, the colours were crow winged dark and orange reds black breasted reds and some whites the hens black,lemon hackled black,partridge and white usually with spurs. He kept this strain going pure until 1979 before introducing new blood but was never happy with the results so discarded all Spanish game carrying the Atkinson blood in 1985. A friend of mine had a Spanish cock off the Doctor which he used into his Spanish and they throw the blue colour and mahogany colour as described by Welshgamecock but also whites and piles,they are striking active birds who generally keep themselves fit. Regard Charlie . Charlie, do some Spanish lines lay tinted blue eggs? Why is it there does not seem to be many Spanish lines, and not alot of info on them? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thanks Charlie interestin post thats the sort of thing I'm looking for I've had a kind offer from uk to post some pics for me so I will get a couple tommorrw and get them to him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I don't know much about them to be honest but it seems to me the style they were used for wasn't popular in England and America but more so in south America and the Caribbean and the Spanish gave rise to the south American birds I could be wrong that's just my views and I saw some Spanish types in Cuba and speaking to a breeder there he was breeding Spanish but adding some American and aseel blood and the results were very much like some Peruvian birds I've seen i might be wrong and if I am please point it out that's how you learn after all 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken_man 1,651 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Great reading GL, look forward to the pics. Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Charlie 11 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I would personally be cautious of the purity of any game strain laying a tinted blue egg and I have personally never seen any Spanish strain that lays one,but have seen them come henny,tasselled,muffed and rumpless the friend I mentioned earlier had some rumpless black reds but there is something about them that's just not right he has a lot of Spanish birds and they come in a large array of colours,generally even though very uniform and virtually identical in hand they don't breed true in colour and even if mating a black red cock to a partridge hen most any colour can be thrown probably due to being bred for purpose rather than show I think the main reason for not being over popular is their small size,as some strains I have seen come little over 3lb. All the best Charlie. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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