Daytime Before Night Time

[South hams hunter 8,938]

Me and my old man have had this debate more times than I care to remember so thought I'd put it up.

 

He's always said to me that if you teach a dog to hunt during the day, not just scenting abit on a walk but actually hunt that it will hunt up on the lamp whereas I've always said then you ain't trained it properly. What's peoples own opinion?

[TOMO 27,277]

I agree with you,,

 

They start using there noses whilst out on puppy walks to a degree,,,some will more than others of course,,,I usually have them out ferreting early,,,so again they start using there nose,,,,after that ,,,8 months onwards I might try any pic out a rabbit on the lamp,,,

 

But recal should be good by then,,,

 

Now I don't pretend to be the best dog trainer,,,,but I've never had a pup hunt up on the lamp,,,if it misses on the lamp as a pup,,, shout it back if nessasery,,,but mine will come back to a high pitched hiss,,whistle sound

[tote 856]

Started them both ways over the years and never had any bother with hunting up, put the time

into their training and make sure their recall is spot on.

 

As TOMO says if a young un misses on the lamp and looks to hunt on give it a shout/whistle and let

it know what's required, the penny will soon drop.

[nothernlite 18,090]

Daytime first ferretimg then the lamp if the dogs any sense about it will soon learn to come back it will get more runs and not hunt up

[trigger2 3,170]

dogs aint daft they soon get to know the crack some abit easier than others. a day dog can go out on the lamp and be taught to work has it should do of a night.

[pip1968 2,490]

nothing worse than going out with someone and your waiting for their dogs to return after a run

[socks 32,253]

All my pups start out ferreting at 8 weeks of age and I have never had a problem with hunting up on the lamp .......?

[Ideation 8,216]

I think it does depend on how much you do . . . .

 

The whippet . . . . I didn't start him lamping until his second season . . . . . and he was a b*****d for hunting up. Not f***ing off around the whole farm, but just running other rabbits he had scented in the field he had been slipped. It probably doesn't help that we have a lot of small fields here, so the rabbits were relatively close to him. Probably also didn't help that I had a habit of putting him straight on another rabbit if he missed one. And what he did every day for his first season, was hunt up in woodland, rough land etc......

 

Anyway, it took me a bloody age to get him coming back consistently when he's missed.

 

Having said that, the dog is a little b*****d, and I think his high drive played a bit part . . . . I could have fired a shotgun over him at times and he wouldn't have noticed!

[South hams hunter 8,938]

The reason I ask is because we got a bitch about 8 Yeats ago now. 12 moths when bOught in off here, she used to be a f***ing nightmare doing exactly what jai said his whippet did and my father put it down to daytime. Sorted her out but when she had her pups at 6ish her daughter did exactly the same as her til it was sorted and again it was put down to ferreting but her sister doesn't do it

[pernod 466]

A dog that hunts up at night isnt getting out enough or is just stupid. It shouldnt take them long to realise whats expected of them, day or night. Just my opinion of course.

 

Pernod

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Don't know anything about using dogs for other quarry,..but, for me,. a genuine rabbiting dog needs to be working, day or night. You just never know how the game is going to play out.

Some places have to be ferreted by day, but sometimes , netted by night,..indeed,..lamping with a dazzler, can be a lot more varied than one might first suppose.. It is all down to where you are shining that spotlight, and obviously as to whether you should be there

 

Lurchers,..and lurchermen,..often need a bit of self discipline,..and early education is often the key...