uru 341 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) . Edited September 11, 2017 by uru Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,586 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 When bull was added over here(back in the day)it was staff,but back then some lines were as game as the APB,and pits were non existent or very scarce to say the least.A lot of black dogs have bull in them some way back, some not so way back.The best kind in my opinion was breed them down to one eight,and if they made the grade, breed one eight to one eight,I seen some very gamey little dogs from this method.A lot of the half crosses I seen were mute and style of work gave them a short life span,even a lot of the quarters were mute.I personally never seen a good cross to the white bulls as most of them were useless anyway IMO.The bulls made a much bigger contribution to the working terrier than a lot of people care to admit. 6 Quote Link to post
bryanm45 787 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I'm going with staffy in mine. Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 What size is that dogs chest bryan? If the parents are patts, that dog has a massive throw back to bull blood Quote Link to post
uru 341 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) . Edited September 11, 2017 by uru 1 Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 My first off kg back in 74 was staffy x. But looked fell. Stripped out had the tell tale head Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 britain at one time had many types of pitdog /bull terrier , even in west midlands there wasn't any one type until 1935 with kc reg, and weather the likes of Breay and Buck added some will always be debated , but what is for sure was the Nuttall terriers do carry lines back to small pit dogs from Lancaster, these were not staffs but a local type, Brian will tell you the bitches he took to Kipper and later Rusty carried lines back to these small pits 2 Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 britain at one time had many types of pitdog /bull terrier , even in west midlands there wasn't any one type until 1935 with kc reg, and weather the likes of Breay and Buck added some will always be debated , but what is for sure was the Nuttall terriers do carry lines back to small pit dogs from Lancaster, these were not staffs but a local type, Brian will tell you the bitches he took to Kipper and later Rusty carried lines back to these small pits I've always believed the story's i was told, wherever the cuts were, dug terriers were there! It stands up, I've seen many photos of the navvies with bull like terriers and kerry & felly types. Then the barge travelers followed, look at the old canal maps and where they went and where they past through... Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,586 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 We kept a lot of game staffs back then,and a lot of men came to us very hush hush to use them dogs on terriers and Wheatons. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 britain at one time had many types of pitdog /bull terrier , even in west midlands there wasn't any one type until 1935 with kc reg, and weather the likes of Breay and Buck added some will always be debated , but what is for sure was the Nuttall terriers do carry lines back to small pit dogs from Lancaster, these were not staffs but a local type, Brian will tell you the bitches he took to Kipper and later Rusty carried lines back to these small pits I've heard Brian say they did and that they didn't... Dependent on the time (80's, 90's etc) and audience... Liam's on the money Uru. Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 We kept a lot of game staffs back then,and a lot of men came to us very hush hush to use them dogs on terriers and Wheatons.. What forsight they had eh liam 1 Quote Link to post
huntmad. 67 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 i have a bitch with 1/8 bull and i think is a good contribution to her and many other terrier as it bumps the size a bit, I like it both ways with or without but it's got to be the right amount in my eyes Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 britain at one time had many types of pitdog /bull terrier , even in west midlands there wasn't any one type until 1935 with kc reg, and weather the likes of Breay and Buck added some will always be debated , but what is for sure was the Nuttall terriers do carry lines back to small pit dogs from Lancaster, these were not staffs but a local type, Brian will tell you the bitches he took to Kipper and later Rusty carried lines back to these small pits I've heard Brian say they did and that they didn't... Dependent on the time (80's, 90's etc) and audience... Liam's on the money Uru. dont they all love an audience eh. B. 2 Quote Link to post
huntmad. 67 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I'm going with staffy in mine. Strong looking dog u got there ? 1 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 britain at one time had many types of pitdog /bull terrier , even in west midlands there wasn't any one type until 1935 with kc reg, and weather the likes of Breay and Buck added some will always be debated , but what is for sure was the Nuttall terriers do carry lines back to small pit dogs from Lancaster, these were not staffs but a local type, Brian will tell you the bitches he took to Kipper and later Rusty carried lines back to these small pitsI've heard Brian say they did and that they didn't... Dependent on the time (80's, 90's etc) and audience... Liam's on the money Uru. dont they all love an audience eh. B. Quote Link to post
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