People Poaching Our Permission

[inan 841]

 

 

 

there is an old saying "take what you need and leave the rest", if this is followed and wholesale slaughter is avoided then game should be self sustainable, its when you get people killing just for big numbers the problems occur.The hunting act is slef destructive as most of the game taken by dogs is illegal so lads toss the game into the hedge rows and ditches as they dont want to run the risk of being caught redhanded, The same laeds go out night after night lamping 30 /40 rabbits what for? just to show how good the dog is.Same with coursing a couple of runs is enough but lads want to get out doing five and six to toss them over the hedge.

totally agree with you mate, no one needs to take 30/40 a night

Ah now that depends on whether your hunting for the pot or doing pest control for the land owner.

Also I can see rabbits being sold pound each to cover fuel costs.

 

 

very valid point there, a skinned and gutted rabbit in the local market by me is a fiver and they come from China! i wouldn't mind having a contact to buy a few off me to cover fuel expenses

 

Magwitch and I used to shoot up to 50 rabbits a night it fed the dogs but it isn't what I would call either exciting or sport. It was in orchards where you couldnt run dogs. I allways got more of a buzz out of those my dogs snapped up. Quality , not quantity

[inan 841]

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

Edited April 2, 2014 by inan

[trigger2 3,145]

 

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

 

a dog is judged mostley on what they have caught not how they caught it.

[lurcherman887 178]

I never seen horns wasted ..ever but you be suprised what fits under the bonnet of a jeep

[fay 75]

i never new there was a season for rabbits il hunt when i feel i dont go nd take more than 5 for no reason is that a bad thing would people b saying the same as rats oh [BANNED TEXT] took all my rats off my permission whats the difference there vermin no season no law to hunt them

[desertbred 5,490]

 

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

 

The first time I was taken coursing in England was in 1959 I was 9 years old even then numbers were important because they sold the hares for half a crown as was and 3 shillings skinned I saw lads running smithfield collie x greys half a dozen lads and 2/3 dogs a piece they would walk the land for 6/7 hours so numbers were knocked over then in fact as regards hares more were taken in the 60,s than now as no farmer was arsed if you were on his land or not as long as you stayed away from stock and closed the gates behind you, so in my recollection lads have always had the greedy streak when it came to running and taking game.

[inan 841]

 

 

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

 

The first time I was taken coursing in England was in 1959 I was 9 years old even then numbers were important because they sold the hares for half a crown as was and 3 shillings skinned I saw lads running smithfield collie x greys half a dozen lads and 2/3 dogs a piece they would walk the land for 6/7 hours so numbers were knocked over then in fact as regards hares more were taken in the 60,s than now as no farmer was arsed if you were on his land or not as long as you stayed away from stock and closed the gates behind you, so in my recollection lads have always had the greedy streak when it came to running and taking game.

 

We differ in that I dont consider that coursing. Some years ago Magwitch and I watched a line of travellers walk our local marshes ,we were on a landway. This was in July they had about 5 dogs off the lead , they caught what was on there, on one occasion one of them stamping on the hare to kill it. That wasn't coursing either. Maybe we moved in different circles?

[inan 841]

i never new there was a season for rabbits il hunt when i feel i dont go nd take more than 5 for no reason is that a bad thing would people b saying the same as rats oh [bANNED TEXT] took all my rats off my permission whats the difference there vermin no season no law to hunt them

Not a season for rabbits, but seasons for hares and deer, either observed or not, depending on your principles I suppose.

[inan 841]

 

 

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

 

a dog is judged mostley on what they have caught not how they caught it.

 

A course is judged by how eventful it was, how good the hare was , how the dog coped with its ruses and dummies, fetching it back out of cover or hopefully boxing it off same.. Never heard anyone mention how great a kickup was, and thats because any decent animal should catch a hare out of a seat.

 

Different priorities.I'm sure.

 

As long as it ends up dead ,does it matter if it is slipped on when it is in its seat , or if you stand in the gateway where it obviously wants to go?

Why not hit it with a flint while its clapped down? Or slip a couple of other dogs in once its tired ,after all a kills a kill, and that's all that matters right?

[inan 841]

I never seen horns wasted ..ever but you be suprised what fits under the bonnet of a jeep

I know land in Suffolk that the Keeper found three roe on taken by dogs and left in ditches.Great advert.

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

 

The first time I was taken coursing in England was in 1959 I was 9 years old even then numbers were important because they sold the hares for half a crown as was and 3 shillings skinned I saw lads running smithfield collie x greys half a dozen lads and 2/3 dogs a piece they would walk the land for 6/7 hours so numbers were knocked over then in fact as regards hares more were taken in the 60,s than now as no farmer was arsed if you were on his land or not as long as you stayed away from stock and closed the gates behind you, so in my recollection lads have always had the greedy streak when it came to running and taking game.

 

We differ in that I dont consider that coursing. Some years ago Magwitch and I watched a line of travellers walk our local marshes ,we were on a landway. This was in July they had about 5 dogs off the lead , they caught what was on there, on one occasion one of them stamping on the hare to kill it. That wasn't coursing either. Maybe we moved in different circles?

 

these lads ran single handed not pack slips and they could spot one at 400 yards and would arc round to get on it they new the game inside out in fact they new the coursing game inside out they were all in their 30,s and 40,s then we used to go in an old bedford doormobile and we used to be on the road for at least 10 hours and on the land for best part of the day no motorways then except M1 and parts of the M6

[inan 841]

 

 

 

 

the coursing game has never been any different, some would have you believe other wise the only difference is now its illegal and a lot is on video.

I disagree in that the emphasis is now firmly on numbers caught rather than the quality of the runs. I ran on permission over 25 years ago , and some of the best permission in the country it was too.

Ah well, I suppose I have my memories.

 

The first time I was taken coursing in England was in 1959 I was 9 years old even then numbers were important because they sold the hares for half a crown as was and 3 shillings skinned I saw lads running smithfield collie x greys half a dozen lads and 2/3 dogs a piece they would walk the land for 6/7 hours so numbers were knocked over then in fact as regards hares more were taken in the 60,s than now as no farmer was arsed if you were on his land or not as long as you stayed away from stock and closed the gates behind you, so in my recollection lads have always had the greedy streak when it came to running and taking game.

 

We differ in that I dont consider that coursing. Some years ago Magwitch and I watched a line of travellers walk our local marshes ,we were on a landway. This was in July they had about 5 dogs off the lead , they caught what was on there, on one occasion one of them stamping on the hare to kill it. That wasn't coursing either. Maybe we moved in different circles?

 

these lads ran single handed not pack slips and they could spot one at 400 yards and would arc round to get on it they new the game inside out in fact they new the coursing game inside out they were all in their 30,s and 40,s then we used to go in an old bedford doormobile and we used to be on the road for at least 10 hours and on the land for best part of the day no motorways then except M1 and parts of the M6

 

That sounds more like it. I know a fella had marvellous eyes he used to go about with Del T, like a human telescope he was.

Edited April 2, 2014 by inan

[leegreen 2,170]

a dog is judged mostley on what they have caught not how they caught it.

 

 

 

 

 

I disagree. Numbers is good but quality shows ability. An easy catch is an easy catch and it's easy to get numbers if you have numbers to catch.

[inan 841]

 

a dog is judged mostley on what they have caught not how they caught it.

 

 

 

 

 

I disagree. Numbers is good but quality shows ability. An easy catch is an easy catch and it's easy to get numbers if you have numbers to catch.

 

You can only catch what's there.I judge a dog on how often it can go out and repeat its success. Most can have a good day, it 's the ones that have more good days than bad that are worth watching imo.

Edited April 2, 2014 by inan

[jimmy1982 153]

Ive had this problem it does my head in because who ever has been going on my permission must be running pups on or poor dogs that running and missing a lot because the last time I went up as soon as I put the lamp on the bunnies are up and running to the hedges. And to add to it theyre chucking empty energy drink cans and bottles around the farm wankers

Thats a first giving ya dog a bit of red bull