Wullz 408 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I think the accuracy is also very much dependent on you having a rifled barrel......you can buy rifled barrels for most shotguns and use them for solids.... I know someone up north who acquired some slugs and tried them out, I think there is a lot of barrel slap and resultant wobble when you use them through smooth bores..... Though I am no expert and this is all hearsay..... Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Rifled slugs would often be used, weight and shape adding to stability, I understand they don't actually spin much, or a sabot would commonly be used in a rifled barrel. As already mentioned, accuracy over distance is a joke, but they do the job close, very limited use really in this country just the same! Edited April 2, 2014 by Deker Quote Link to post
CharlieT 32 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 A rifled12 bore barrel would be S1, try getting one on your ticket ! I have slugs for deer and can achieve 2" groups at 50 yards and 4" at 100yds. You should use slugs with "fins" through a smooth bore as the fins are designed to produce a correct fit and to allow varying degrees of choke. Quote Link to post
abarrett 462 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I would check the choke on the shotgun first if you put a slug through a full choke make sure you get someone to film it Instant youtube hit that would be 1 Quote Link to post
CharlieT 32 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I would check the choke on the shotgun first if you put a slug through a full choke make sure you get someone to film it Instant youtube hit that would be Why, a Foster style slug, which are the ones designed for smooth bore shotguns,are perfectly safe when fired through full choke. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I would check the choke on the shotgun first if you put a slug through a full choke make sure you get someone to film it Instant youtube hit that would be As CharlieT has mentioned the main use of the rifled/fin look on slugs is to allow for assorted chokes, these tend to give the slug only a little spin! Quote Link to post
abarrett 462 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I took the slug out of a cartridge then tried dropping it down the barrel of a w&s single barrel full choke it stuck about 3 inch from the end my theory being if it rolled out it would fire ok .no problem with the browning or the old baikal but not a chance of it coming out of that webley without a problem Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) I took the slug out of a cartridge then tried dropping it down the barrel of a w&s single barrel full choke it stuck about 3 inch from the end my theory being if it rolled out it would fire ok .no problem with the browning or the old baikal but not a chance of it coming out of that webley without a problem The Fluted/rifled slugs is designed to compress to accommodate tight chokes, if it only stopped 3" from the barrel end I suggest under cartridge pressure it would be fine, that is what they are designed for! Edited April 3, 2014 by Deker 1 Quote Link to post
abarrett 462 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 These slugs where home loads so I did bottle it a bit The old single barrel ain't worth much so I might put one in tie some string to the trigger and give it a whirl I don't know a great deal about slugs . Now I know a little bit more Great to read peoples thoughts cheers everyone Quote Link to post
Coypu Hunter 486 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 .410 slugs are reasonably accurate out to about 25 metres, in my experience -- they're good for 3" groups at that range, which I've achieved at my pistol club under "perfect" conditions with a smooth bore. Wouldn't want to push them much further than that, so I'll stick to the rifle for vermin. If you're a registered shotgun owner, they're available over the counter at all good French gunshops! Quote Link to post
hily 380 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 never used them but have seen them used during the foot and mouth to put down animals that we couldn't get into the crush .The effect on these mature cows was instant death shot in the same place you would place a captive bolt when the vet checked them over he told us that the slug had traveled through the beast and smashed the pelvic area don't know how this would effect the meat on deer and bore.. Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 i has slugs passed for deer red and roe and shot a lot with them....as well as buckshot but thats for a different thread............ i also have had the pleasure of shooting the shotgun that held the record for 100 and 200m slug gun and it was shocking granted it had a scope on it and was a pump action but it was getting like 2 inch groups with them at 100m now thats good! as for killing power imo their to much for roe they just pass thru the ribs granted they make a BIG hole and a good blood trail but not as much shock as a rifle shot...or buck shot! a shoulder hit will result in a lot of meat damage but the beast will die very very fast for reds they are good but like roe they will just pass thru the ribs but with reds being more "meaty" they have more target to damage and with a shoulder shot the result is dead deer. now i used them on my daily rounds when on the bike i would take the shotgun with me and have a few slugs incase a deer showed its self.... but for shotguns and deer.....number 4 buck shot every time Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) but for shotguns and deer.....number 4 buck shot every time Don't know about Scotland but I believe it's illegal in England to shoot deer with a smooth bore shotgun under the 1991 Deer Act - Schedule 2. That would apply to slugs or shot. I should have mentioned that above when I referenced deer. I would think a rifled barrel does satisfy the act (subject to the necessary energy requirements being met), as it specifically prohibits "smooth bore" guns. Edited April 3, 2014 by Alsone Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 but for shotguns and deer.....number 4 buck shot every time Don't know about Scotland but I believe it's illegal in England to shoot deer with a smooth bore shotgun under the 1991 Deer Act - Schedule 2. That would apply to slugs or shot. I should have mentioned that above when I referenced deer. I would think a rifled barrel does satisfy the act (subject to the necessary energy requirements being met), as it specifically prohibits "smooth bore" guns. no... as long as you are the land owner or servent of so...and the shooting is to prevent damage to crops.livestock and or danger to public health the gun has to be of 12g or more and the shot has to be of AAA or larger Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Section 26 The following is a summary of this section supported by: The Deer (Firearms etc.) (Scotland) Order 1985 (a) On arable land, improved permanent pasture (other than moorland) and land which has been regenerated so as to be able to make a significant contribution to the productivity of a holding which forms part of that agricultural land; or ( On enclosed woodlands: Where the occupier has reasonable grounds for believing that serious damage will be caused to crops, pasture or human or animal foodstuffs on that agricultural land, or to that woodland, if the deer are not killed, a shotgun may be used to kill deer by the following persons; • The occupier in person And with the written authorisation of the occupier; • The owner in person • The owner’s employees • The occupier’s employees • Any person normally resident on the land Any other person must be approved in writing by the Deer Commission as fit and competent 6 1 Quote Link to post
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