charlie caller 3,654 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Ideation old chap I could not care two hoots what your sexuality is, that is your business, I am sorry if you have had a slight sense of humour failure, had the boot been on the other foot and you had pointed out to me that I appeared to do rather a lot of research into homosexuality, I would have found it quite funny, so if I offended you please accept my apology, it was not my intention, as you have not insulted me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 So you trying to tell me my chi is a lesbian cause it mounts the back of my other bitch.Or my dog is gay when it try's to mount my leg. Your clutchin at straws pal. Animals don't know the difference except when there in season and it's natural yes natural. The penis inserts in the vagina naturally. You don't see gorillas using bit spit Where the hell did I say that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals Female apes rubbing their genetalia together for sexual satisfaction..... Bison performing full anal penetration..... Same sex birds making nests together, sexual acts togther and sitting on infertile eggs togther..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Ideation old chap I could not care two hoots what your sexuality is, that is your business, I am sorry if you have had a slight sense of humour failure, had the boot been on the other foot and you had pointed out to me that I appeared to do rather a lot of research into homosexuality, I would have found it quite funny, so if I offended you please accept my apology, it was not my intention, as you have not insulted me. Aye, no worries matey, I'm not insulted at all It's been a long day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,501 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Stop talking out of your jacksy mate, if YOU don't know what you mean then their ain't a lot if point writing it is there ! Ahh petty insults, truly the mark of a man who feels bested by a superior argument, anything remotely intelligent to add? Look, it's a little hard for me to understand what you mean when you don't seem to know yourself, get me? I thought it was easy, real simple.......do you think long term committed homosexual couples should be allowed to adopt kids? It's not a f*****g trick question Ahh now you are asking me a question rather than putting words into my mouth, ok my answer is very simple, no I do not think gay couples should be allowed to adopt children, or buy them, or use a turkey baster to impregnate themselves and give birth, no no no and again an emphatic no, children should be raised by a mother and father, I am not in the least bit homophobic, and as I stated at the start I have gay aquaintences, and thoroughly nice people they are, but while ever there is breath in my body I will argue against same sex couples raising children, it is WRONG on every level. So you are saying exactly what I thought you were saying. Honesty is always the best policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 To be perfectly honest . . . . the first research I have done has just been now. . . . to prove you wrong. And to be fair its been quite satisfying, so I might try it again sometimes. As for insinuating i'm gay. That's a pretty sad level to descend to, as a means of escaping the fact that your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on. And i'm actually straight, although if I was gay. . . . . you'd still be wrong neems - But the thing is . . . . . we do. . . . it occurs. . . . in enough cultures, societies and situations across time and the globe, to be defined as a naturally occurring thing. Not good, not normal, but unfortunately, one aspect of human nature. I know it does happen and has happened through history,but its not a strong instinct most mothers possess (in any circumstances) that's what would make it natural imo. I did write a long post about your homos in different cultures post,but my internet crashed cba doin it again. but if you look more into Roman society and greek you'll see it wasnt so clear cut,lots of superstition and subversion involved. as for the non-europeans,to my mind they are a different species anyway so wouldnt enter into this debate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 You seen that film the 300? With all the spartan warriors? Well, sparta had a well organised system of homosexuality, amongst their warrior class. . . . which was all of the males. . . Not strictly true mate, they paired very young trainee soldiers up with older ones and they were encouraged to be intimate so they would have strong bonds between them and their fellow soldiers. Once that young soldier was trained it was all over. The adult Spartan warriors were expected to go home and get married after so many years of service, think homosexuality between adult males was punishable by death IIRC.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,681 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Just read that link born,,,,read about the river dolphins,,,only animal known to be involved in nasal sex,,,,lol,,,,,they stick there dicks in the others blow hole,,,,,gives a hole new meaning to a blow job,,lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 theres a young girl who works for me who is a lesbian, not butch or "in your face" or in any way objectionable and you wouldnt guess she was gay. her girlfriend is just the same. they have been living together for some years and seem very happy. i asked them once if they would ever like kids, and they both said it wouldnt be fair on the children, as they would get destroyed at school. ironically i think they both have the qualities to be great parents. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Stop talking out of your jacksy mate, if YOU don't know what you mean then their ain't a lot if point writing it is there ! Ahh petty insults, truly the mark of a man who feels bested by a superior argument, anything remotely intelligent to add? Look, it's a little hard for me to understand what you mean when you don't seem to know yourself, get me? I thought it was easy, real simple.......do you think long term committed homosexual couples should be allowed to adopt kids? It's not a f*****g trick question Ahh now you are asking me a question rather than putting words into my mouth, ok my answer is very simple, no I do not think gay couples should be allowed to adopt children, or buy them, or use a turkey baster to impregnate themselves and give birth, no no no and again an emphatic no, children should be raised by a mother and father, I am not in the least bit homophobic, and as I stated at the start I have gay aquaintences, and thoroughly nice people they are, but while ever there is breath in my body I will argue against same sex couples raising children, it is WRONG on every level. So you are saying exactly what I thought you were saying. Honesty is always the best policy. Yes Wilf that was obvious from the start, but my point was I never mentioned orphaned children, or adoption,or anything about learning homosexuality however gay couples come by these children is not the issue to me, it is the very fact that they are able to, and we live in a society, that sadly seems to push such (to my mind) horrors as being the norm, and acceptable. Edited March 31, 2014 by charlie caller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Get ready for the discrimination lawsuits going in by the gay community because they have been bypassed for adoption. Just because they can now marry does not give them the right to automatically adopt a child. Hypothetical at the moment..but a soon to be real prospect. adoption is a hard enough process already for hetro couples. surely there'll have to be stricter guidelines for same sex couples. Which by my thinking..will make it nigh on impossible for gays to actually meet the criteria to adopt. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 It's also natural for chimps to fling they're shit and walk on all fours but they are a different species what's natural for them isn't for us the same as homosexuality 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 theres a young girl who works for me who is a lesbian, not butch or "in your face" or in any way objectionable and you wouldnt guess she was gay. her girlfriend is just the same. they have been living together for some years and seem very happy. i asked them once if they would ever like kids, and they both said it wouldnt be fair on the children, as they would get destroyed at school. ironically i think they both have the qualities to be great parents. If they have the qualities needed to be a parent they'll see that it would be cruel on the child for them to be forced to grow up as the adopted child of 2 open deviants. They should just put that on the adoption form, Sexual orientation-gay do you think gays should adopt?-yes UNSUITABLE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 And I agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Why would a child get bullied at school? The only reason a child gets bullied is if the child/children doing the bullying are raised to not accept certain things in society. No child is born racist, sexist or homophobic. It learns these through its nurture, from its parents. If both parents are homophobic for example, relating to this topic, then it's extremely likely that that child will grow up to be homophobic until it experiences things for itself like talking to a homosexual and befriending them without knowing their sexual orientation. This then causes conflict - do I go with my parent's opinion or do I make my own opinion based on my experiences and risk causing conflict with my parents about the situation? As for there being a risk of the adopted child being brought up to be homosexual or if you hang around with homosexuals you will change into one or having older brothers doesn't make you homosexual (by the way, what about the eldest brother who doesn't have any older brothers? Is he fecked?), seriously? Go drag your knuckles along the floor, swing your oversized forearms built for tree swinging up, grab your wife by the hair and drag her back into your cave so you can club her a few more times because you aren't ready for any form of society at all. As for those that want to "live under Christian values", why are you on here? Why aren't you burning witches, turning the life support machines of at hospitals that are keeping disabled babies alive, smashing down abortion clinics, picketing outside doctor's who use "witch craft" to cure people rather than prayer, burning synagogues, ripping down down every effergy of Christ in every church as Jesus and man were made in the image of God yet one of the commandments is to not make a model of god or some shite? You don't have time to worry about homosexuals, you've got shit loads to do in the name of Christianity so get off here and go please your god by burning people who differ from what is written in a fairy tale. In fact go see if you can walk on the Atlantic ocean for a while. Homosexuals are not taught, changed, contagious or a f-ing fashion. They are born that way from man and wife regardless if their parents are Christian, catholic, Buddhist, Muslim or atheist. The only thing in life you have a right to is happiness and if someone prevents you from being happy in any way then they don't have your best interest at heart. It's that simple. If you would rather see a child kept in the state system than adopted out to a same sex couple then you are very delusional as to what is best for a child or you just don't want to be seen as a "sympathiser". What if homosexuals want to have kids of their own? It's not as though they aren't infertile so they can't. It's like saying IVF should be banned or surrogate parenting outlawed. It's just the same. The couple can't produce children between them so they get assistance in one form or another. There's nothing to stop a single female going to a sperm bank and having a child on her own, not even part of a couple, doesn't even have to have sex. My mate's son was made in a lab using fertility treatment. They took his wife's eggs, his sperm, fertilised them in a Petri dish and then placed the egg back inside her. Nine months later out comes a boy. They didn't even have to have sex FFS!! Is that "natural"? Who the feck are any of you to say who can and can't have kids and by what means? That's right, you're not in any position to say shite. You can have an opinion, by Joe have you got an opinion. But you don't half look daft when it's based on teachings as old as the wheel with no actual fact based research or scientific proof. Aren't you glad that if your child or your grandchild is homosexual they can live the life that makes them happy because society will accept them for who they are not who they're rogering? Maybe you'd rather they tried their best to fit in with "your" society, harbour resentment, feel scared and lonely, marry a member of the opposite sex and live a life of abject misery because they have to live a lie to please you and your image of what is "normal" or commit suicide as they can't be who they are but also can't live the lie. WTF do you you know about normal anyway? You only have your life and your life and experiences are different to everyone else. You can see the same incident as other people but you'll all see it differently. Hell, you'll even see the same colour different to everyone else so nothing is "normal" because everything is different. What a shite linear world some folks must live in where everything is black and white with no colour or variance from the path that they believe society wishes them to stick to for fear of ridicule and rejection. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Personally I only worry about me and my own and the company I keep. I'm not against gays or dykes but I can't understand it. At the same time I don't want to understand it. Nothing wrong with that, do what you wanna do if its causing me a problem ill soon let you know about it. Just don't try force your ways on to me or play the gay card if I don't agree with it. Do I think gays or dykes should be allowed kids? Other than get a few people's backs up what difference will my opinion have? If we live in a "Christian" country surely it should follow those rules. If we're going to change those rules then f**k me we should change the rules of sharia rather than bending off backwards out of fear for another card. Way to many cards for me so ill just worry about my own kids and dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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