Black Magic

[weasle 1,119]

I was just reading the post about the dog having a leg of,and it struck a cord with me.

My trouble is i just cannot rear a pup over the last couple of years,ive had 2, breakdown on me.

You can put that down to bad luck,So i breed my own reared them like they were going to make me millions,

Kept 2 never really enjoyed pups that much but i enjoyed these 2,heard lads say you cannot train 2 pups ect, i found it quite the opposite.The pups where always ferreting with me ,one stood out,if she had of been 14 months old her concentration would of been good,she was snatching rabbits out of holes 2 or 3 a day,naturally go to the other side of the hedge from me.had seen her mom work a fox, and was now mad into hunting them coming back glassy eyed,Iwas already worrying about keeping her quite for the summer.

.We had had guests the week before and they where amazed that dogs could be out so much with so much open land,yet never wonder,go of hunting.Somthing they never do unless somthing actually crosses the garden.Any way dogs out as normal, i went out for a chat and play came in house to wash up or somthing, heard screaming ran out, pup dragged her self back to me as a car pulled up to tell me she had just hit a dog.

Just coming 7 months a strong and fit as a ox that was a very sad goodbye,nearly a month ago now still breaks my heart,having grown up with and worked with animals all my life,you kind of learn just to take the good with the bad but that on top of the others has knocked me for 6.

At least i have her sister nice thing not as strong or forward just a normal pup,although my gut says average.

After all thats happened average would do.

Then noticed her throwing her leg when running,Quick check fibre tissue inside leg where you would expect all the muscles to join the leg,lead work only anti inflamtries,vet thought maybe cat2 injury,but having no other muscles around it to support it is a worry.

Long winded sorry,Can you be this unlucky,am i cursed,or im doing somthing wrong,pups fed the best,vets always say how well they look.Can you have pups to well.Not doing anything i didnt always do,the only thing i can think of is the back garden is more of a field,So pups can be coming out of kennel and running flat out.

Im one pup from giving up now,so fire away.

[jack68 628]

feck me that's a bad read sorry to read about you having some bad luck some times if it was not for bad luck I would have no luck at all, you could take a bit of time out and when the time is right start again ,,,atb

[weasle 1,119]

lol i must of used up a lot of luck somewhere without noticing.

Would have given up ages of go if i could.At a stage now where i cannot live with it cannot live without it

[Bosun11 537]

Feck me mate, I thought I was having all the bad luck with pups. I was right there with ya till the car accident. So sorry to read that, I know how proud of those pups you are.

 

Right, in a nutshell, your doing everything right BUT you have just answered your own question... Build a run for your kennels, so as your pup don't over do it. What the brain wants to do at that age, with running dogs, the body don't always follow.... You know this, your just covering every base and fair play, I did the same the other week with my pups injury, I knew the score but put a couple of pm's out simply because I needed to hear it back to me but when all said and done, you know what to do....

 

Very best of luck mate.

[Brigzy 1,298]

I don't understand how the pup got ran over mate, did it escape from it's run or get out the yard ?

[weasle 1,119]

Have kennels and runs,Just seems a crime to have them in them when im there,but things aint working out the way they are.

The other pups on day 4 of kennel and walking on lead shes already cracking up.lol

Have a good idea a cat led her onto road seen him twice since going the way i saw the bitch coming back.

As i say its a field short of putting up deer fencing...but for the first time a dog to go on road and couldnt have been there a few seconds.

See other dogs that have a snooze on the road

Edited to add cheers bosun, You talk sence

Edited March 28, 2014 by weasle

[skycat 6,173]

Here's me firing away! Firstly, I would NEVER assume that a pup (or any dog) won't wander. My entire garden is 6 foot fencing, or more. There is only one way to keep a pup off a road, and that is with a fence. I even have a designated 'dog zone' in the garden. OK, so I'm lucky enough to have a big garden, but even if I didn't, there is no way that any of my dogs would be allowed to run loose: at the very least they'd be into the neighbours' gardens causing mayhem.

 

Secondly, two pups together run a much greater risk of damaging themselves tearing about than just one pup on its own. I've often had 2 youngsters together and paid the price when they've collided with fences, trees, etc in the garden.

 

Some people can rear pups and never have a problem: it IS down to luck, or lack of. But you can hedge your bets by trying to cover as many eventualities as possible: like by having a fence. I once lost 4 promising young dogs in as many years, all down to freak accidents: broken back when falling into a ditch, dislocated hock after jumping a fence, one run over on a country lane miles from anywhere, and the postie van hit her as she was coming back to me.

 

I guess we all have runs of bad luck from time to time, sounds like you are having one of those runs. I do believe in fate, but I also believe in trying to keep dogs as safe as possible, especially when they'r young, foolish and hell bent on trying to kill themselves during their first year of life. This is not to say that I don't get them out and about, but I do now try to minimise the risks: for example, by not letting two pups loose together in the countryside: they want to race each other, and don't look where they are going. Even a fence post can kill if a dog slams into it neck first when looking behind it at its mate coming up fast from behind.

[SirRichardCecil 70]

Hope your luck changes

[Barry White 79]

Think you have got your answer,keep a dog in kennels so you are in control of exercise,food,etc,never think they won't wonder they are all extremely curious ,the most important thing is never give up ,we have all been there ,if it don't work out go get another, keep hunting hope your luck changes

[weasle 1,119]

skycat i dont always agree with you,but i do respect what you think.

Forgetting the bitch getting knocked over,that was incredibly unlucky,the woman who hit her said she never saw her she wasn't even on the road kind of half in half out.

But to have 3 dogs all hurt in roughly the same place,broken fabbella bone,snapped ligament&stifle,now muscle damage around the same place.

Is that bad luck or is something going on.

Is there any difference in pups coming out of kennel with cold muscles and running around a small garden like they do,and doing the same in a big garden?

[skycat 6,173]

Were they all of the same breeding? Could there be a 'design' fault in their conformation? Got any photos of them?

 

For example: I knew some dogs from a particular line, and they often seemed to have shoulder problems. They weren't my own line, though some of the breeding was related. Me and a friend noticed how several of these dogs seemed to injure their shoulder assembly more than they should. No tests were carried out as such, but if the angle of the shoulder is wrong, then it could open the dog up to repeatedly damaging tendons, ligaments etc. This is why breeding is both a science and an art, and why so many of the really good coursing dogs are probably of the soundest possible build: ones that can't hold up under continued 'abuse', endless running, far more than most owners would ever dream of giving a dog, never get bred from. These dogs may never be likely to win a lurcher show, but their conformation is perfect for what they do: it really is a case of form following function.

 

Not saying that this is the case of your dogs, but just exploring the possibilities.

[TOMO 26,264]

My first lurcher was in 85,,,I was 17 ,,,,at 1 year old it got ran over,,,,my next lurcher I bought a month or so later,,,,got to 10 month old ,,,,got ran over,,,I then got a year old bitch,,that I had for 13 years,,,but a few months after I got that bitch,,,I got a pup from Hancock ,,,11 month old,,,pts through distemper,,, a few month went by and I got another lurcher pup,,,got to just over a year old,,,,and was killed out lamping went over a cliff ,,,

 

So there you go,,,in about 5 years,, I lost 4 dogs,,but you got to carry on a learn from your mistakes,,,

[weasle 1,119]

Dogs all non related.

Ilike fast dogs with a bit of go so you expect them to get injured when they start there first session.Thats why i think its so important to have them out and about so much.If it was in the kennel till one it would be dead first time it go`s lamping.

Tomo Youve had your share of bad luck then.

My thoughts have been its just bad luck,The dogs should be living the dream Have my self well set up here except fencing.

I make lots of mistakes, running when i shouldnt where i shouldnt but as you say you know that when you go home and think about it.

But with these i dont know why its happing,is it just luck or somthing eles?

A picture of the bitch that got run over for no other reason i thought she was the bomb

 

[TOMO 26,264]

That's real nice looking animal that,,,real shame for you

[Silversnake 1,099]

I feel for your losses, and I hope if there is something you are doing wrong, you figure that out. I can say if you really love the chase you will never, ever give up. I wish you all the best with your next pup and your next pup and your next pup....