snoopdog 1,256 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 i just wondered if anybody could help me ...theres a place or should i say road where i jog my dogs at the back off the motor its more like a long farm track ive seen people walking it and folk on bikes ...ive just found this road about six miles off where i live ....anyway to cut a long story short i got my path blocked by a keeper in a 4x4 at my rear and one in a 4x4 across the front of me they said i wernt aloud on this road in a motor vechial .....iam just wondering if theres anyway i could find out if this is true or not ...???? all the best snoop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I dont know the legalities of driving but they sound like fecking bullies and the best way to respond to bullies is to stand up to them I have had it myself mate, allthough I am on foot, Ive had guys shouting abuse, threatening allsorts, the more they did it the more I went on the ground to annoy the hell out of them and make them realise nothing they said or did would make me stop. I even went out of my way to go over and make sure they saw me on the ground every time they were there at the same time as me. It culminated in a blow out one day when 2 of them tried to follow me up the hill shouting at me, they couldnt keep up and they had to get the 3rd bloke to give them a ride up on the quad bike then the 2 of them jumped off and came over and started having a go, one of them was shouting in my face and the other one was videoing it. I stood up to them and told them they could do or say whatever the feck they liked I would be back the next day and the next and the one after that and every day for the rest of eternity or until they shut the feck up so they ended up calming down and we got chatting and made a deal and now we have a happy ending where they give me a wide berth and I keep out of their way too. With you being a guy (albeit a small one ) it might have to come to physical violence as sometimes thats the only language bullies understand or respond to, but if youse can sort it out amicably then thats allways better. FECK UM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boris b 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Whats the road coming up as on a map ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 If you check with the the local council they should be able to tell you if it's a right of way, As for blocking you in i know from experience in eire as this happened to me, i had permission on land and some local guy's blocked me in, thinking they were smart they called the gardi and it took them one and a half hour's to get to me i showed the gardi my fac licence, copy of permission, insurance, and the gardi asked me did i want to press charges for something like unlawfull holding againest my will, needless to say they never tried it again, the law works in strange ways Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferret15 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 i would look at an ordinance survey map if its marked as a byway they Cant stop you, if its a footpath or bridal way their right,or if the road is named and maintained by the council they cant top you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest little_lloyd Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Theres a small track on the edge of my ferreting permission that leads out to the local pub, weve used it many times in the motor and the police use it to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twins 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Get the grid reference from end to end from a ordenance survey map get on to your local authority and ask for the rights of way office and they will be able to tell you the legal status, a map might not be up to date and road status can only be confirmed by direct contact with your local authority, Byway means open to all traffic unless restricted so this can mean no more than two wheels abreast i.e. motor bike only, be carefull, ok taking advice about bullies, but my own personell experience and a £30,000 bill yes that has got 4 noughts has tought me to be aware of where I take my motorised vehicle off road. Good luck Twins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alastair Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 it has to be a b.o.a.t or byway open all traffic .and the vehicle needs to be all road legal,also i think theres a speed limit,its stops the illegal motorcrossers going mad on them.check local map mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twins 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 it has to be a b.o.a.t or byway open all traffic .and the vehicle needs to be all road legal,also i think theres a speed limit,its stops the illegal motorcrossers going mad on them.check local map mate Better to ask at local authority I belong to the Trail riders federation motor bike off road specialist on legal off road roads they ride legal road all over the uk ,there is a group for 4x4 Only trying to save some one some money on legal fees. Twins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 snoop if you were not allowed on it then why did they do the same to stop you by driving two vechiles up also, am only after thinking...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twins 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Bit more help this will tell you who you have to talk to and what ask for ROW rights of way officer ask for definitive map and statements they cant refuse you a look if you make an appointment or ask him to mail you the info. Definitive Maps Public Rights of Way are recorded on the Definitive Map and Statement. These maps are managed by the relevant County Council. This information is then provided to the Ordnance Survey who use it to show public RoW on their maps. There may be other RoW which are not shown and it is possible to have these added to the Definitive Map. All County Councils will have a process for this and will be called 'Modification Order Package' or something similar. Ask your County Council for their package. What it important, is that the Definitive Maps are being updated as part of the Right to Roam legislation. Part of this exercise is to have an up to date statement on the existing Rights of Way. Some people may ask for Modification Orders to a RoW deleted. This may be a RoW which driven horses use at present - e.g. Road Used as a Public Path (RUPP), Byway Open to All Traffic (BOAT), green lanes and unclassified county roads. Equally, people may ask for a Modification Order to update an existing Footpath (FP) or Bridleway (BW) or to create new RoW. This could be useful to create circular routes for users. This work has to be completed by 2026, which a long way into the future. Remember that all Modification Orders take a long time to be approved or rejected, particularly if a Public Enquiry has to take place, as they often do. All horse drivers should think about their local area and see if they can constructively put a case for upgraded and new routes to open access, particularly off road and safe routes. Plus watch out for proposed closure or downgrading of routes. In both cases seek the help of your County Council RoW unit and ask to be on their mailing list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twins 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 snoop if you were not allowed on it then why did they do the same to stop you by driving two vechiles up also, am only after thinking...... people can drive where they like if they own the land called private road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 oh well, worth a try mate, BUT IS IT PRIVATE!!!!!!!!! SCUM here have the same up even though it's a public right of way. a man who wasn't from the town i live in put some gates up blocking a right of way, thecement wasn't hard till we had them torn down, they were worth 1300 euro, and about 3/4 a ton, needless to say he never tried it again.... plus his gates done another job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I WILL SORT THIS ITS PISSED ME OFF BIG TIME ....IAM GOING TO SEE THE KEEPER AND HAVE A CHAT WITH HIM AND SEE IF WE CAN SORT THIS OUT ..... THANKS FOR THE ADDVICE FOLKS IAM GOING TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER ....CHEERS SNOOP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 You keep calm Snoop, we all know what your capable of if there is any rope lying around Serioiusly though contact the local authority or look on the net, I think you can search for adopted roads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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