Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Amazing piece of engineering granted. Sadly much of it was built using cheap Eastern European labour as we have nowhere near enough skilled men in the UK any more to build something half this size. I think that's sad. Maybe, I couldn't say. But the technicians, engineers, scientists and project managers almost certainly won't have been cheap, foreign or second rate. . Nither are the welders bud. Go to barrow or lairds Tbh I'd have been suprised if they were but then steal fabrication isn't exactly top secret stuff so those jobs may have allowed non Brits to work on them. All the technical stuff would only allow Brits though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,332 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Amazing piece of engineering granted. Sadly much of it was built using cheap Eastern European labour as we have nowhere near enough skilled men in the UK any more to build something half this size. I think that's sad. Maybe, I couldn't say. But the technicians, engineers, scientists and project managers almost certainly won't have been cheap, foreign or second rate. You'd be surprised! A lot of 'skilled' positions filled by imported labour, certainly at Rosyth where the thing is being assembled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Amazing piece of engineering granted. Sadly much of it was built using cheap Eastern European labour as we have nowhere near enough skilled men in the UK any more to build something half this size. I think that's sad. Maybe, I couldn't say. But the technicians, engineers, scientists and project managers almost certainly won't have been cheap, foreign or second rate. You'd be surprised! A lot of 'skilled' positions filled by imported labour, certainly at Rosyth where the thing is being assembled.. You work there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The biggest terrorist threat to these ships will be from a small vessel when they are moored up. Its about time our navy clawed its way back up the leagues, we have the best blokes in all three forces, they deserve and need the best kit. We have been playing catch up on some of our kit for too long I dare say the MOD Police have that under wraps in UK ports and Fleet Protection Group keep an eye on things everywhere else. They're not gonna let some poxy rag head in a skiff get near the largest and most advanced Naval asset in Europe and quite possibly NATO. The biggest threat to a carrier since the Falklands has always been anti ship missiles. The Russians and Chinese have ones powerful enough to sink a carrier with a single hit. Fortunately we also have six of the worlds best Air Defence Destroyers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,332 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 So I'm sick of talking about shooting hares, thought I'd change the subject to shooting Argies. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/10723164/Britains-largest-warship-nears-completion.html 100 days from today the first of our two new Queen Elizabeth class carriers will be named in an official ceremony and kitted out for sea trials to enter full service in 2020. Have a flick through the CG images of her on the link. Fecking amazing piece of British engineering and the colossal scale of this world class project leaves me quite proud to be British quite frankly. So forgive me for this thread and my geekery. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" Amazing piece of engineering granted. Sadly much of it was built using cheap Eastern European labour as we have nowhere near enough skilled men in the UK any more to build something half this size. I think that's sad.. Who told you that shite What shite? That much of it was built using foreign labour..., or that there isn't now a large enough skilled ship building indigenous workforce to tackle a project of this size? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The biggest terrorist threat to these ships will be from a small vessel when they are moored up. Its about time our navy clawed its way back up the leagues, we have the best blokes in all three forces, they deserve and need the best kit. We have been playing catch up on some of our kit for too long I dare say the MOD Police have that under wraps in UK ports and Fleet Protection Group keep an eye on things everywhere else. They're not gonna let some poxy rag head in a skiff get near the largest and most advanced Naval asset in Europe and quite possibly NATO. The biggest threat to a carrier since the Falklands has always been anti ship missiles. The Russians and Chinese have ones powerful enough to sink a carrier with a single hit. Fortunately we also have six of the worlds best Air Defence Destroyers. . I chased after the royal yacht in me rib years ago. A fooking bigger rib suddenly appeard came right along side me. Four ballied big fooker with sub machine guns told me to. Go away. Politly. Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 So I'm sick of talking about shooting hares, thought I'd change the subject to shooting Argies. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/10723164/Britains-largest-warship-nears-completion.html 100 days from today the first of our two new Queen Elizabeth class carriers will be named in an official ceremony and kitted out for sea trials to enter full service in 2020. Have a flick through the CG images of her on the link. Fecking amazing piece of British engineering and the colossal scale of this world class project leaves me quite proud to be British quite frankly. So forgive me for this thread and my geekery. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" Amazing piece of engineering granted. Sadly much of it was built using cheap Eastern European labour as we have nowhere near enough skilled men in the UK any more to build something half this size. I think that's sad.. Who told you that shite What shite? That much of it was built using foreign labour..., or that there isn't now a large enough skilled ship building indigenous workforce to tackle a project of this size?. Both Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 went on sea trials on hms cambletown from cammel lairds and was in mock battles out in the irish sea with subs planes and other boats,also seen the 4.5 cannon getting fired. and a gatlon gun that could fire 2000 rounds a minute that was made by the dutch tbh my dad who was a shipwrite and worked there for 27yrs only ever went on trials once on hms liverpool and was gutted i got on the trials . You still over there pip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The biggest terrorist threat to these ships will be from a small vessel when they are moored up. Its about time our navy clawed its way back up the leagues, we have the best blokes in all three forces, they deserve and need the best kit. We have been playing catch up on some of our kit for too long I dare say the MOD Police have that under wraps in UK ports and Fleet Protection Group keep an eye on things everywhere else. They're not gonna let some poxy rag head in a skiff get near the largest and most advanced Naval asset in Europe and quite possibly NATO. The biggest threat to a carrier since the Falklands has always been anti ship missiles. The Russians and Chinese have ones powerful enough to sink a carrier with a single hit. Fortunately we also have six of the worlds best Air Defence Destroyers. . I chased after the royal yacht in me rib years ago. A fooking bigger rib suddenly appeard came right along side me. Four ballied big fooker with sub machine guns told me to. Go away. Politly. Lol. You may have just met some lads from Poole there mate, LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The biggest terrorist threat to these ships will be from a small vessel when they are moored up. Its about time our navy clawed its way back up the leagues, we have the best blokes in all three forces, they deserve and need the best kit. We have been playing catch up on some of our kit for too long I dare say the MOD Police have that under wraps in UK ports and Fleet Protection Group keep an eye on things everywhere else. They're not gonna let some poxy rag head in a skiff get near the largest and most advanced Naval asset in Europe and quite possibly NATO. The biggest threat to a carrier since the Falklands has always been anti ship missiles. The Russians and Chinese have ones powerful enough to sink a carrier with a single hit. Fortunately we also have six of the worlds best Air Defence Destroyers. . I chased after the royal yacht in me rib years ago. A fooking bigger rib suddenly appeard came right along side me. Four ballied big fooker with sub machine guns told me to. Go away. Politly. Lol. . The brit was doing a tour before going to Lieth. And ive got mixed up i was in me wooden boat. Any way they wernt happy the rib event was the old QE 2. Lol that was the police launch You may have just met some lads from Poole there mate, LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,332 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 So I'm sick of talking about shooting hares, thought I'd change the subject to shooting Argies. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/10723164/Britains-largest-warship-nears-completion.html 100 days from today the first of our two new Queen Elizabeth class carriers will be named in an official ceremony and kitted out for sea trials to enter full service in 2020. Have a flick through the CG images of her on the link. Fecking amazing piece of British engineering and the colossal scale of this world class project leaves me quite proud to be British quite frankly. So forgive me for this thread and my geekery. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" Amazing piece of engineering granted. Sadly much of it was built using cheap Eastern European labour as we have nowhere near enough skilled men in the UK any more to build something half this size. I think that's sad.. Who told you that shiteWhat shite? That much of it was built using foreign labour..., or that there isn't now a large enough skilled ship building indigenous workforce to tackle a project of this size?. Both I can really only talk about Rosyth, but from the outset there has been a substantial part of the workforce made up of foreign labour. That's not shite. That also kind of answers the second bit..., if we did have enough skilled workers locally there'd be no need to recruit from Poland... so also, not shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The biggest terrorist threat to these ships will be from a small vessel when they are moored up. Its about time our navy clawed its way back up the leagues, we have the best blokes in all three forces, they deserve and need the best kit. We have been playing catch up on some of our kit for too long I dare say the MOD Police have that under wraps in UK ports and Fleet Protection Group keep an eye on things everywhere else. They're not gonna let some poxy rag head in a skiff get near the largest and most advanced Naval asset in Europe and quite possibly NATO. The biggest threat to a carrier since the Falklands has always been anti ship missiles. The Russians and Chinese have ones powerful enough to sink a carrier with a single hit. Fortunately we also have six of the worlds best Air Defence Destroyers. Little boats like this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yeah, poxy little skiffs like them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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