Invited On Friends Permission - Advise Please ?

[delswal 3,819]

The lad has a closed ticket, but the land has been passed for all calibres. Therefore, if he's sure his mate's permission covers him to shoot there, and he checks the land is defintely cleared, he can shoot there to his heart's content while he's with his mate.

 

Not rocket science.

If tornados conditions state the certificate has been granted for shooting over NAMED land and is a closed ticket , he cannot use the firearms on any other land unless the conditions on his certificate are changed to do so , regardless wether the land is passed or not

[walshie 2,804]

Closed tickets (round here at least) state so and so land or land deemed suitable by the chief constable. (i,e ANY land that has been cleared)

[Blackdog92 2,047]

 

 

I hope I don't sound stupid saying this but. Why do you need to get your land passed for calibres I just don't understand what it meens.

Basically because some calibers are more powerful than others.

Yes I understand that. I meen like does someone have to check the peace of land and say u can only shoot this calibre gun here or is it something else...?

[delswal 3,819]

Closed tickets (round here at least) state so and so land or land deemed suitable by the chief constable. (i,e ANY land that has been cleared)

well before ya give advice next time walshie ……check were the man ya advising comes from tornado from south yorkshire quite a way from surrey , may just be a case of different forces different rules ……..north yorkshire police at one time , if certificate was closed and land was named thats all you could shoot over until varied for other land

[walshie 2,804]

 

Closed tickets (round here at least) state so and so land or land deemed suitable by the chief constable. (i,e ANY land that has been cleared)

well before ya give advice next time walshie ……check were the man ya advising comes from tornado from south yorkshire quite a way from surrey , may just be a case of different forces different rules ……..north yorkshire police at one time , if certificate was closed and land was named thats all you could shoot over until varied for other land

 

 

Yes thanks for your words of wisdom del. I'm fully capable of reading where he comes from, as I did before I tried helping to answer the lads question. I'm aware how far that is from Surrey and I'm also aware what a closed certificate is.

[delswal 3,819]

 

 

Closed tickets (round here at least) state so and so land or land deemed suitable by the chief constable. (i,e ANY land that has been cleared)

well before ya give advice next time walshie ……check were the man ya advising comes from tornado from south yorkshire quite a way from surrey , may just be a case of different forces different rules ……..north yorkshire police at one time , if certificate was closed and land was named thats all you could shoot over until varied for other land

 

 

Yes thanks for your words of wisdom del. I'm fully capable of reading where he comes from, as I did before I tried helping to answer the lads question. I'm aware how far that is from Surrey and I'm also aware what a closed certificate is.

 

your welcome Tornado ……..if in doubt phone your FLO better to be safe than sorry ……

[SportingShooter 0]

Tornado - to clarify everything, perhaps you wouldn't mind writing what your certificate states in regards to land exactly as it is written on your FAC,

 

Firearms law is an ass and in my opinion it is best to deal with facts

[zx10mike 137]

tell your friend you don't trust him and show him this thread you will be uninvited and problem solved

[Tornado1979 145]

Wow... Just got in from work to find I've been missing out on all this lol.

 

I'll check ticket in morn and post lads, and just to confirm I've got closed ticket and my friends got open.

[zx10mike 137]

if the land is passed for your cal then your good to go.

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

 

 

If you or your friend has an open ticket and permission off the land owner to shoot thats fine: if you deem the land suitable. No need to call the police for clarification over the land if you deem it suitable.If you do not have an open ticket you can't shoot the land even with the farmers permission.

Why not?

 

OP says land is passed for all calibres!

 

Because if he has a closed ticket the firearms officer will have to check the land first to approve it

 

However if your friend has an open ticket you could shoot under his supervision as long as you have the permission from farmer

 

No he can't, he has to adhere to the conditions written on his own certificate, not his mates.

 

exactly charlie …….the nominated land to which the certificate holder can shoot over will be named on his certificate , flout the conditions on your certificate you risk losing it

 

"Why not?

 

OP says land is passed for all calibres!"

 

Your region does not get your FAC back and write every piece of land on it every time you get somewhere new, they just approve it, in this cas it is apparently already approved!

[Deker 3,478]

delswal
Posted Yesterday, 08:16 PM

" If tornados conditions state the certificate has been granted for shooting over NAMED land and is a closed ticket , he cannot use the firearms on any other land unless the conditions on his certificate are changed to do so , regardless wether the land is passed or not"

And if as Walshie writes it says........... "land deemed suitable by the chief constable" he is fine.

 

Perhaps you should calm down a bit, seems you are making assumptions as well, the advice given in this thread is sound, you have gone out on a limb making assumptions and knocking everyone else, as SS says, lets see what his FAC actually says!

Edited March 27, 2014 by Deker

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

 

 

If you or your friend has an open ticket and permission off the land owner to shoot thats fine: if you deem the land suitable. No need to call the police for clarification over the land if you deem it suitable.If you do not have an open ticket you can't shoot the land even with the farmers permission.

Why not?

 

OP says land is passed for all calibres!

 

Because if he has a closed ticket the firearms officer will have to check the land first to approve it

 

However if your friend has an open ticket you could shoot under his supervision as long as you have the permission from farmer

 

No he can't, he has to adhere to the conditions written on his own certificate, not his mates.

 

exactly charlie …….the nominated land to which the certificate holder can shoot over will be named on his certificate , flout the conditions on your certificate you risk losing it

 

Come on Charlie.

 

He doesn't even need a FAC to shoot the land at all under certain conditions. He does not have to comply with the conditions of his FAC in many circumstances, how about he went on an accompanied paid deer stalk, which part of his FAC says he can do that?

[Tornado1979 145]

Here we go lads info of my FAC...

 

[walshie 2,804]

In your face Del. I repeat my original advice as it appears it was sound.