dixiefried 269 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Worryingly there is a strong rumour that terrier work within Hunts will be traded to get the law amended to use a full pack of hounds again , remember , the hunting Tories are usually mounted participants whose enjoyment is riding not digging out , it is those MPs that Cameron is aiming to please , terrier and lurcher lads are of no interest to them.. Terrier work will not be sacrifised As Pheasants in pens abd a pack of hounds dont make good bed fellows. The use of terriers to. Protect. Gamebirds is not up for discussion , what is is the use of. More than two hounds to flush to guns in the protection of FARM ANIMALS. They didn't need to have a big survey ....to find the way to go..A trip to Scotland would have Sufficed..That's why so many Foriegners come up here with their Dogs ...oops Hounds & terriers ....Salmond gets his way ...You will all need Doggie Passports Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 The campain to win hearts and minds through CONSERVATION. Of habitat. Is the way forward. The brown hare has been wiped out on many estates the set a side and stewardship schemes. Funding. Strips of land for wildlife habitat. Is the way forward , But hare coursing should be allowed as part of are cultural heritage every estate that shoots hunts etc should be lobbybing there mps the creation of. Field conservation society that covers all. Game and its protection. Through its management. Coursing , hunting, and shooting conserve not destroy , If the they want wild life make them pay for it. Go any any estate thats well managed. Song birds and ground nesting birds thrive. Go on a rspb. Shit hole were the lakes ar full of shite through over feeding were they fence to keep vermin out were magpies thrive , Jaw jaw not war war You get more with sugar than vinigar , The ca. Want to fight the ban.!!!!!! Over turn the ban through. Winning over the public. The antis. Kept at them and got limited succes. We are the majority they were the minorty. Change dont come easy it takes time One step at a time. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 What I'm saying is thru ignorance general public have been led down the garden path to believe Hare Coursing is not good for the Hare The Parlimentary toffs let the Handfull of idiots Known as Antis have their way but kept a practice that is detrimental to the Hare stay Probably because more of their ilk supporters participate in shooting It's a fecking bad joke. Coursing can be beneficial for the Hare, just as shooting can be. They can both equally be fecking awfull for them. Fact is where there are sportsmen wanting to bag hares in a sustainable way there will be strong hare populations. Both can be abused to the detriment of the Hare. Certain local Hare populations have been shot for decades and it certainly hasn't been to the populations detriment, the way you go on you would think that coursing is the only mechanism for natural selection in Britain and without it the Hare would be doomed! LOL. Hare coursing should be legal because it's a sustainable and ecological form of hunting as old as the hare itself and hunting should be the right of every Briton. Whether that be with hound, gun or whatever. But these days, in 21stC Britain, the public and the politicians need a better argument than that to justify it. And the Hare can do just fine without coursing so that's no justification either. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 is hunting banned? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiefried 269 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Who has taking over Tam Parkers' positions fighting for Terriers at a National & local level.? He will be missed.. Is it a Younger ,fitter man /lady ..If Scotland goes it alone ,will the Terrier clubs up here ,Still be in the NWTF..as they will be out of constitutional duriestiction Will some re-Organisation have to go on..Same goes for the F & M W T C ...although the Mid-Scottish is all but a DODO up HERE...Change of Leadership is the only way that is ever going to change ..Just a Voting Seat for someone I.M.O. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Coursing can be beneficial lol Coursing is definatley beneficial After 3-5 seasons of Coursing on any said estate you will have a fitter' stronger all round healthier population of Hares. Guns are indiscriminate You could be shooting the stronger Hares leaving the weaker ones to breed With coursing only the strong fit and healthy breed on And they either get caught and killed or they survive With shooting many get injured and die a slow painful death over maybe days or weeks. Their is no argument what is best for the hare and their future well being as a species. Max, you've clearly never seen land that's been coursed to death then? Lads can kill strong hares if they have no respect for them, I've watched them! They can wipe land clear of hares too. Just like a gun can if they don't show any restraint. Shooting is indescriminate for the most part you're right, an annual cull will take out a percentage of hares across the spectrum of fitness and cunning. But those that are left are still subject to the laws of nature and natural selection as they would be without shooting, all shooting has done is reduce the overall population, it's not tipped the ratio in favour of the weak. So not detrimental at all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'm not turning this into a coursing vs shooting thread. I simply understand how it's much more difficult to justify coursing to the masses than it is the proposed changes to the law and for that matter shooting. I wont sacrifice another mans sport to save my own and shame on anybody that will, it's disgusting but that's our biggest weakness and always will be. That's the last I have to say on coursing in this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Preaching to the choir Max,agree with all of the above,do I think the coursing ban will ever be lifted....not a chance ,too much negative footage of the waterloo cup on the national news Education is the key,sadly some don't want to learn.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Coursing Either you live or die there and then With guns for the best part you die or die slow over days or weeks Loads get wounded Coursing is the Best option to control hares It's the most respectful way to control hares It's the most natural way to control hares They have been getting chased since time began They have only being getting shot for 100-150 yrs ? Coursing is Best for Hares End of. . Why oh why do you perpetuate this shite max. Hare drives are well orginised the very notion that scores of hares limp away and people are that bad at shooting is a load of shite. Thats the problem. Instead of bemorming another section of are way of life find the postive for fooks sake the hare is to some a pest to others the holy grail to me a magnificent animal we were blessed with i love to coursed but know has to be shot in some cases Edited March 25, 2014 by gonetoearth 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spade 224 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 BBC usual bollocks this evening, asking residents of some town what they thought of the intended amendment. Who was asking the question? The one, the only Basil f***ing Brush FFS . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 The BBC is a left wing propogander machine a dinosaur that i hope and pray gets its wings clipped. Its over paid hierarchy are rolling round in the mud as the water drains out of their comfy pond, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Regarding what max and born have said..... Why is it legal to shoot a rabbit and a hare, and its ok for a dog to kill a rabbit but not a hare....? What's the reasoning behind this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Regarding what max and born have said..... Why is it legal to shoot a rabbit and a hare, and its ok for a dog to kill a rabbit but not a hare....? What's the reasoning behind this? . The hare is not protected the act of coursing is illigall. The hunting act is by far the most utter load of nomsence ever. Put in the statute book Go out with a lurcher and a shot gun put the hare up with the lurcher and take a shot you are not cousing or hunting you are flushing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Regarding what max and born have said..... Why is it legal to shoot a rabbit and a hare, and its ok for a dog to kill a rabbit but not a hare....? What's the reasoning behind this? gurney, hippy, smelly, unwashed, brainwashing, terrorising, animal molesting, animal right antis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Regarding what max and born have said..... Why is it legal to shoot a rabbit and a hare, and its ok for a dog to kill a rabbit but not a hare....? What's the reasoning behind this? Dogs were deemed, rightly or wrongly, essential to rabbit and rat control. That's why squirrels also are not exempt. It's illogical in terms of cruelty because a squirrel isn't much harder for a dog to kill than a rat but in terms of efficiency and cost benefit in pest control dogs are not considered essential for hunting them. But that's what happens when you let city folk make decisions on things they know nowt about. They even commisioned the Burns inquiry and then completely ignored every word of it! Edited March 25, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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